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Freelensing - you like/do it??
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:47 pm    Post subject: Freelensing - you like/do it?? Reply with quote
http://philipbloom.net/2012/02/01/the-art-of-lens-whacking-real-lights-leaks-and-ones-done-in-post/

A lot of film makers and now also still photographers seem to get a kick out of that.

How about you guys??


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mainly when I'm brainstorming ideas about what lens I can use on my NEX, and I've had some interesting results. But it's obviously the latest fashion -

as last weeks AP had an article about how to do it.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
As I said, there seems to be a hype about it...


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
when first time I know the word "freelensing" I was so curious. when I fiugured out what it is. I said to myself, I almost do this with every manual lenses I have Very Happy, specially the uncommon one like projector, enlarger lenses.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lame, cheap trick for flare/exposed film/low contrast film look. Snore.

Twisted Evil


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's a handy thing to know about in case you find a lens you have to fall back on but it won't fit.
Other than that, it's a gimmick, imo.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I first hard about this a couple years back. I've tried it. I've had mixed results.


Sometimes it creates off colors in the background and makes everything seem to move in different, impossible directions.


Sometimes it's a viable alternative for an ad hoc macro shot.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't use any programs to enhance my photos (mainly because I don't know how to use them and I'm still really learning how to take good shots with my equipment) I like having lenses/ technics that are interesting, I've tried the free lensing thing but my images are always too washed out!!

as bernhardas said its a cheap alternative to tilt shift and in the right hands i think it could yield good results.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I always do this before modify the lens or use different mount lens to take photo. It named: handy adapter ring. Laughing Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tricky to do with a DSLR as you can really limit your focus range (closeups only), but a mirrorless body allows a good range of freestyle tilt and shift, and with a crop frame sensor, a full frame lens gives a large enough image circle to allow quite a bit of movement without too much vignette.
Big hands and small lenses help though, if you want to control light leaks


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Two thoughts…

1. looks like we've all stopped worrying about sensor dust.
2. Product opportunity? - two adapter plates and a "bellows bag" possibly translucent


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some adapter brands produce tilt shift adapters, which achieves almost the same thing?


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bernhardas wrote:
Something like this exists for medium format lenses.
However with a proper bellows sack.

If you have partial transparent sacks with different degrees of transparency and color you can start a kick starter project and a new fad in photography Laughing


Only if i changed my name to Lomography Twisted Evil


PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can use tilt adapters with Pentacon Six lenses ! Much more control and no weird leaks !


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rawit wrote:
Some adapter brands produce tilt shift adapters, which achieves almost the same thing?


you can do it by yourself.

connect your lens to your camera with flexible tube, such Rubber tube.

so, Lens+ruber tube+camera, it is yours tilt-shift lens.


PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was bored..............

and I rummaged around and found a nice Sigma Superwide ii 24 / 2.8 that I tried to convert from PB to PK and never finished, so the back of the lens has been turned off in a lathe.
I tried freelensing with it and the light leaks were horrible, the gap between the lens and the NEX was about 25mm, so that was rubbish.
Then I remembered I'd got some 25mm sticky back foam. Very Happy So I hacked a bit of that into a doughnut shape and just stuck it on the back of the lens. It was a bit short, so I hacked a bit of 5mm foam and stuck that on top,

It's not pretty.


But it works.........

Bear in mind, it's very dark in our living room, and I've had a bit more wine than I should. So don't get all critical about my artistry. Laughing I was stood squarely in front of the fire and equally between the side walls, focused on the picture frame.

It works because there's no light leaks, I've got 36mm of compression, and maybe 25 degrees of tilt. I shall get a NEX lens cap and perfect it. Wink


PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have done some today, results are here: http://forum.mflenses.com/ernostar-f1-8-85mm-freelensing-t64914.html

Quite nice actually...


PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, I saw those - very impressive images. I did the foam rubber thing mainly because I haven't got a spare NEX body cap and with the foam I can just hold it against the camera. I've got a PB mount 35-70 zoom somewhere, I can see another sacrifice coming as I make something to use either lens.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think freelensing has its place. Selective blur and flare are part of it. Not that it's a great example, but here's one with my Meyer Lydith 30mm done a while ago.

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