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shauttra
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Location: Latvia
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:31 am Post subject: Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135mm with M42 macro rings |
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shauttra wrote:
Testing Carl Zeiss lens in macro mode with macro ring kit
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135mm with M42 macro rings |
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Spotmatic wrote:
shauttra wrote: |
Testing Carl Zeiss lens in macro mode with macro ring kit
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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
Welcome and nice set I must say.
As someone that has never tried macro rings before, here comes some rookie questions :
Is M42 macro rings general and suitable for all M42 lenses? How to choose macro rings? Which ones are better? _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
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55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
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shauttra
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Location: Latvia
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: |
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shauttra wrote:
Thanks!
I think there is no big difference between macro rings. I have russian and Hama M42 rings in different lenght (total lenght of rings is 100mm) _________________ Mto-1000, Tair-3, Auto Exaktar 135mm 2,8, Samyang 14mm 2.8,
Jupiter 37A, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135/3.5,
Helios-44, Mir-1, Revuenon 50/1.4,
Carl Zeiss Pancolar 50/1.8, Samyang 24/1.4, Auto Vivitar 35/2.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Wow! I rarely saw such great macros with a normal tele lens. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
welcome shauttra
congrats, superb results |
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
Tharos wrote: |
Is M42 macro rings general and suitable for all M42 lenses? How to choose macro rings? Which ones are better? |
M42 extension tubes (aka macro rings) are just hollow pieces of pipe with female M42 threads at one end and male M42 threads at the other; it works for every M42 lens and there's no optical difference (no glass elements). Some tubes support auto aperture (i.e. they relay the aperture pin), so that's pretty much the only factor in compatibility if you are using an M42 film body… Adapted cameras don't support the automatic aperture anyhow, so no difference there.
In build quality there can be some slight differences, mostly in the feel and weight. Many of the cheap tubes are made by the same manufacturer, however; I have many sets with the different brand names (Dixons, Stitz, Prinzflex) and all are obviously the same tubes. So I'd just choose based on cheap price (under 10 EUR for set of three tubes totalling about 50-60mm).
(Remember that to reach 1:1 macro the lens must have as much extension as the focal length of the lens is, i.e. 50mm lens needs 50mm of extension for 1:1. Not all extension needs to come from tubes, however; the close focusing capability of the lens itself also helps.) |
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2108 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
These are amazing shots, wow. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
for 'test' shots theyre pretty darn good! _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
koji wrote: |
These are amazing shots, wow. |
YES! _________________ -------------------------------
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Uzay
Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Uzay wrote:
I agree with the others beautiful shots and i want to thank you Arkku for his explanations. _________________ Helios 44-4
Jupiter-9
Samyang 85 1.4
Katana 135 2.8
Pancolar 50 1.8
Takumar 50 1.4
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
yes, thank you arkku, based on your explanation i just ordered some extension tubes from ebay. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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dave_t
Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Posts: 214
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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dave_t wrote:
Very nice, did you use the full 100mm of extension tubes for #2? |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
M42 ext tubes are cheap so it's worth getting at least one set, if not more.
If you like macro work, consider a set of bellows as these can be found cheaply for M42 mounts. Also good for enlarger lenses. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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shauttra
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Location: Latvia
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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shauttra wrote:
in second picture I used all macro rings and 2x teleconverter. _________________ Mto-1000, Tair-3, Auto Exaktar 135mm 2,8, Samyang 14mm 2.8,
Jupiter 37A, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135/3.5,
Helios-44, Mir-1, Revuenon 50/1.4,
Carl Zeiss Pancolar 50/1.8, Samyang 24/1.4, Auto Vivitar 35/2.8
www.radosi.lv
http://shauttra.blogspot.com |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Welcome to the forum!
These are truly excellent.
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arhi_tectu1
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 315
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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arhi_tectu1 wrote:
Welcome and enjoy
I must say these are really great photos the one with the snail is 10+
i really like it .
Regards
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Welcome indeed and what a stunning intro. Like Andy - I would love to see more
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
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Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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dakoo
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 603
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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dakoo wrote:
shauttra wrote: |
in second picture I used all macro rings and 2x teleconverter. |
2x teleconverter ??? Can u tell more about this..
For M42 Or the EOS ?
i have the same setup, 350D, macro rings, 135 did try a few test shots.
But u inspired me for more... thanks.. _________________ Yashica ML 2.4/24, ML 2.4./28,
Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4, Planer 1.4/50, Planer 1.7/50,
SMC Tak 1.4/50,Tessar 2.8/50, Jupiter2/85
CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200
Canon Tns 24/3.5
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poncho_morales
Joined: 25 Oct 2008 Posts: 162 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: |
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poncho_morales wrote:
Beautiful! thanks for sharing and don't forget to post more of this _________________ EOS 1Ds mark 2, Super Multi Coated Takumar 3.5/35mm and 1.4/50mm, Carl Zeiss Distagon 1.4/35mm, Olympus Zuiko 2/40mm, Olympus Zuiko 2/90mm, Minolta Rokkor 1.2/58mm, Canon 2.8/300mm ssc fluorite |
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shauttra
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Location: Latvia
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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shauttra wrote:
I use 2x TC and macro rings in following order - camera-TC(M42)-macro rings (as long as possible)-lens (135mm) _________________ Mto-1000, Tair-3, Auto Exaktar 135mm 2,8, Samyang 14mm 2.8,
Jupiter 37A, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135/3.5,
Helios-44, Mir-1, Revuenon 50/1.4,
Carl Zeiss Pancolar 50/1.8, Samyang 24/1.4, Auto Vivitar 35/2.8
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http://shauttra.blogspot.com |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Amazing results indeed _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
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Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
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NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
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COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5084 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
shauttra wrote: |
I use 2x TC and macro rings in following order - camera-TC(M42)-macro rings (as long as possible)-lens (135mm) |
Welcome Shauttra and thanks for the tips.
I'm gonna give it a try.
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Duckmancgy
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Posts: 57 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Duckmancgy wrote:
Wow those look awesome. Love the snail. Nice captures |
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