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Abbazz
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 Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: A treasure trove of information about Soviet cameras/lenses |
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Abbazz wrote:
While browsing the Russian forum thread about the Helios-40 lens (http://club.foto.ru/forum/11/261862), I came across a link to this incredible website: http://www.photohistory.ru/SFI-2.html. As it seems to be available in Russian only at the time, here's the link to a machine translated English version: History of Soviet Photographic Equipment
Don't miss the pages about lenses:
Wide Lenses
Normal Lenses
Telephoto Lenses
Zoom Lenses
Sorry if these links have already been posted here, but I'm so impressed by the amount of information contained in these pages  that I want to share the joy with the whole world  .
Cheers!
Abbazz
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Great find! Thank you!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: Re: A treasure trove of information about Soviet cameras/len |
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Farside wrote:
Interesting, but very hard work trying to read that. "Watering cans" had me chortling.
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pilant
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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pilant wrote:
Thanks for sharing, many strange lenses I've never seen.
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Laurence
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Laurence wrote:
Abbazz, thank you! I perused the Russian forum, and found many wonderful images.
This image would probably be questioned in the U.S.A. for "age appropriate", and the woman (girl) looks a bit.....young.  Even at that, the image is classic and beautiful. The lens sure does show its merit.
http://radikal.ru/F/i023.radikal.ru/0802/dd/ee5b8d6a9b25.jpg.html
On the other hand, I think this might be the same model, and this image is also pure classic, to me anyway. Again, the lens is incredible.
http://radikal.ru/F/i026.radikal.ru/0802/4e/e57d026b433e.jpg.html
Here's another fine image, showing nice bokeh:
http://foto.radikal.ru/f.aspx?i=ee6992ad287f4f309bb588b414d26cab
On another more esoteric note, I wonder if any of you have seen this before?
http://foto.radikal.ru/f.aspx?i=db5671234cb045b5baf3f22da3489f75
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Abbazz
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Abbazz wrote:
| Laurence wrote: |
| Abbazz, thank you! I perused the Russian forum, and found many wonderful images. |
You're welcome, Laurence. This thread on the Russian forum is full of beautiful images. It's also very dangerous because it's full of tips about wonderful lenses and it makes you want to buy them all.
Because of this thread, I have just bought three cheap but interesting lenses on eBay.
First, a 35-KP 140/1.8:
Then a 35-KP 120/1.8:
And a KO-140M 140/1.8:
These lenses were designed for cine 35mm projectors and were made at the Belarus Optical factory in Minsk. All three seem to be of Petzval formula, a very interesting optical formula designed in the 19th century and mainly used for portrait. Here is the specs sheet for the KO-120M:
You can see it resolves 90 lp/mm in the center of the frame and 45 lp/mm at 12mm from the center. Of course, these figures are measured wide open, because projector lenses have no diaphragm! The lens coverage is 18.2mm x 23.2mm (the size of a 35mm cinema frame), which is enough for a crop format camera like my Pentax K-10d.
The lenses should arrive here in Brunei in about two weeks, I cannot stand the wait...
A Jupiter-13 125/1.5 lens? I have never seen that before. It's not in Princelle's book, neither on the Photohistory website.
Speaking of Photohistory, there are some lenses in the section titled "Aerophoto objectives and optics for space Flying devices Aerial and space camera lens," that would be a lot of fun to try:
"Uranium-24", 3/500
"T-Uran-1", 3,5/750
"Mars-6", 4/1000
"Leningrad-4", 8/1800
Cheers!
Abbazz
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Katastrofo wrote:
Wonderful site! This should be a stic-kee! The one blond looks very
similar to Serpieri's "Druuna" back when I used to buy Heavy Metal off
the magazine rack... 
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patrickh wrote:
An unknown world and completely fascinating
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Riku wrote:
Thanks, very informative site! |
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Pancolart wrote:
After seeing these: http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?67475-JUPITER-13%28125-1-5%29-Rare-soviet-lens-%28samples%29
I am drooling for: Click here to see on Ebay
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Lloydy wrote:
Excellent, even if Google makes a hash of the translation. 
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I wish I knew where I'd put the three Schneider 1.2/135 lenses I have, they are huge so not easy to misplace but I have gone and done so... 
I do have one quite rare Russian lens - a Helios-33 2/35. Strange little thing, not worked out how to mount it yet, I think it's a Biotar type.
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kansalliskala wrote:
Thank you!
Things I didn't know could even exist.
What is this for example: abtomat bayonet + m42 combo?
http://www.photohistory.ru/index.php?pid=1207248179066813
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
whoa what a lens... and a good model to test it on..  |
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Gerris2 wrote:
Click on the link at the top of the page, for pin-ups, whoa hahaha some healthy specimens of female sex there.
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Misha_M
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Misha_M wrote:
Great resource; too bad it has no shopping list! there sure are some great many fast lenses I would really like to put my hand upon...
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:28 am Post subject: |
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tromboads wrote:
| Abbazz wrote: |
.....Because of this thread, I have just bought three cheap but interesting lenses on eBay.
....These lenses were designed for cine 35mm projectors and were made at the Belarus Optical factory in Minsk. All three seem to be of Petzval formula, a very interesting optical formula designed in the 19th century and mainly used for portrait. Here is the specs sheet for the KO-120M:
....The lenses should arrive here in Brunei in about two weeks, I cannot stand the wait...
Abbazz |
Just how are you planning on mounting these things.
For discrete portrait work.... if they have those sorts of resolving powers... .. .. .. .. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Projector lenses make great portrait lenses, I have a pair of very fine 1950s Kershaw ones that are Petzval types, my favourite portrait lenses.
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tromboads
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tromboads wrote:
Again. how did you mate them to a mount. Actually I don't suppose because you have to worry about infinity it doesn't really matter actually... .. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I just stick it inside three sets of NEX extension tubes joined together. Focus by sliding in and out.
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tromboads wrote:
good thinking  |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:41 am Post subject: |
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ManuallyYours wrote:
Nice portrait.
I see that I'm not the only one who is crazy to mount some lenses of projectors on camera.
Try BARCO, you will see how the render can be great even better than prosumers lenses.
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