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Orio
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: A Farm |
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I took this picture today, on the hills, with this unbelievable lens I have called Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 120mm.
I have an old Zebra version, very used. Not even the MC model. But it works so good for me:
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
A non sharpened 100% portion:
After having clicked on the thumbnail, click also on the following image, because it is shrinked down by Imageshock. Clicking on it will display it 100% _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have a more older leatherette version this lenses are great I like old ones. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I have a more older leatherette version |
Does it perform well for you? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes, nice sharp lens. http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/biometar/biometar_120/ _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I don't understand, this lens has such a bad reputation.
When I got my copy, and I saw the pictures it makes, I thought "maybe I was lucky, and I got a very good one".
But if yours works great too, then evidently what they say about this lens is not true. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
These lens are sharp many professional photographer has was the work horse for years here. Not my favorite lens but far from bad one. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It matches very well the 5D.
It has low macrocontrast and good microcontrast, which helps the 5D to read the whole dynamic range without losing the detail.
I would recommend this lens to any 5D user. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Here's another one of today, with the Biometar 120, always 5D:
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Need a little saturate and would be perfect. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
another non sharpened 100% crop that I find amazing for such an old lens and old technology:
This lens is 40 years old at the very least - I'm speaking of my model, Attila's is even older, probably around half century age. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This is also amazed me in old lenses , I have some incredible copy from them.But worst copies are also reach many "modern" lens quality. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
This one, and the following ones, are taken with Leica lenses.
In this case, it's the Elmarit-R 90. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
This is also amazed me in old lenses , I have some incredible copy from them.But worst copies are also reach many "modern" lens quality. |
They certainly beat many of the contemporary zooms.
Of course with contemporary primes it's more difficult, given the incredible help that today's computer can give when designing lenses.
If one thinks that the Biometar lens was designed with ink and paper, and when not only aspherical lenses were a dream, but also the coating was single layer, it makes it even more amazing, what these lenses can still do today! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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As weird as it may seem, I prefer the Biometar's warm fuzzy tones to the Leica's colder hues, and even in the detail, the Biometar loses, but it holds the comparison with dignity.
(note: I edited Leica's colours to match the WB of the Biometar). _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Hard to select between them, I not see big difference. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Hard to select between them, I not see big difference. |
Well of course I have not published a crop from the Leicas yet... like we talked about when you were here, you can't judge a lens from a 900 resize...
And the colours as I said, were corrected to match the Biometar's
Leica lenses have colder hues than normal.
In my experience I have found this to be true:
Nikkor lenses = warmer than reality
Zeiss lenses = the most accurate colours
Leica lenses = colder than reality _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Of course, when Leica lenses start to rock, there is little left for the competition... here again the Elmarit-R 90:
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
... and this is a non sharpened 100% mind-blowing crop that shows what Leica means... consider that there was wind so the vegetation isn't 100% frozen.
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Summicron-R 50:
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Summicron-R 50:
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Summicron-R 50:
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Summicron-R 50:
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Summicron-R 50:
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