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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: What the heck IS this thing ? 200+/f/5 lens |
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luisalegria wrote:
Mystery lens !
Having a taste for both the cheap and bizarre, I could not resist buying this strange lens for a nominal sum.
I mounted the whole thing in an M42 T-mount, and I can almost get to infinity. It looks like its a little longer than 200mm, and stops are marked from f/5 to f/22. It focuses from just short of infinity (on a Pentax) to about 9 feet/3 meters. There are no markings other than "Accura" on the barrel section near the mount.
What on earth is it ?
Some facts - on the camera end it actually has an Exakta mount, broken but recognizable. Connected to the Exakta mount is a focusing extension tube, marked "Accura", in the M40 thread typical of Exakta extension rings. I know this because it matches my Extakta macro set. You can use the focusing extension tube as a focusing helical. I got the thing assembled this way, I didn't rig it. I happen to have an M42 Accura focusing extension tube also.
The lens tube is just a conical aluminum tube, with the only glass elements in the very front, and I think there are only one or two elements, in front of the diaphragm. The diaphragm seems to have been added on, the f-stops are just scratched on the tube.
I think someone just made a lens for his Exakta out of various parts - I'm guessing that he machined a tube out of aluminum, cut a slot for the diaphragm peg, put in a diaphragm and lenses, and attached the whole thing to an Accura extension tube. Voila, a lens.
It works - f/5 ISO 200 hand held -
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
superb portrait Luis! a beauty _________________ T* |
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blende8
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: |
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blende8 wrote:
Very probably a prototype!
poilu wrote: |
superb portrait Luis! a beauty |
Oh yes, I remember the one where she smiled.
Divine! _________________ Best wishes, Wieland
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Accura was the trade-name of a Japanese photo products distributor, they sold all sorts of accessories like filters, tripods, extension tubes, flash guns - and lenses, on which they put their brand name.
They were pretty much in the same business as Spiratone. I think the only unique product they had was a reflex housing for Canon and Leica, their own version of the Visoflex. And even that may have come from some other source. When I saw this thing the first time I thought it may have been a lens intended for Visoflex, for that reason. If so, it would have been quite rare. But no, it is even stranger than that.
Which is why I think the focusing extension tube on this thing is just one of these components, and Accura has nothing to do with the lens.
It doesn't look like a prototype, it looks like someone with a lathe made his own lens. And its a pretty good lens ! God knows where the glass and diaphragm came from.
Since it came to me from Pennsylvania, I'm now going to call it a "Penntar". |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:37 am Post subject: More pictures from the Penn-tar |
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luisalegria wrote:
It behaves like a very simple lens, which it is of course, just one or perhaps two (cemented?) elements. Sharp in the middle, soft and full of aberrations away from center, particularly when wide open. But then, this has some value as a "pictorial" lens, doesn't it ? It is however fairly sharp (at the center) even at f/5
The bird -
100% crop -
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
I'm amazed at the quality these simple optical designs can produce. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
I'd imagine whoever cobbled it together was quite pleased with the results. I wonder what it cost him in parts? _________________ Dave - Moderator
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:00 am Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
I'd hazzard a guess that he was perhaps an engineer that was desperately after a sharp lens with good bokeh and because he could'nt find, or perhaps afford, a commercialy available lens for the job he decided to make his own out of bits and bobs from cheap lenses he perhaps bought on ebay?
Who knows?...All I know is that lens seems to have very nice bokeh. |
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
This is (My guess, but I am sure) large format/plate camera lens, must be from around 1910s time...
Chekc this auction, same aperture mechanism,
Click here to see on Ebay
I have used these lenses (some from that time, but mostly large format) with bellows and extension tube (small bellows doesnt help in reaching to infinity).
But, how do you control focussing, or this is fixed focus. _________________ -Ballu
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
When I got it it came attached to an Accura focusing extension tube in Exakta mount, which took care of focusing. Later I mounted it on my Exakta bellows. It was threaded M40, the same as the Exakta accessory thread - Exakta extension tubes, microscope mounts, etc. actually use this thread, so its easy to attach a mount.
I converted my Exakta bellows to work on my Pentax.
I think this may be another case of an ex-military optic converted to civilian use. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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