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 Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: Same scene, two cameras |
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Nesster wrote:
Although this isn't the best possible quality - my cable release didn't work! - and only one camera (as far as I recall) was on the tripod (the ES-II I leaned on a rock)... this is an interesting comparison relative to film size.
One photo is with the Bessa 1 / Vaskar, Tri-X developed in D76 1:1. The other is with the Pentax ES-II, S-M-C Takumar 3.5 / 28mm, HP5+ developed in Ilfosol-S 1:9. Both scanned via Epson 4490.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Here's another from the Bessa, I thought this one came out very well 
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greg wrote:
Very nice, I have a softspot for REAL B&W (film). |
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tobbsman wrote:
Interesting comparison. I would not know which one to choose from the 2 shots.
The 3rd shot is really fantastic.
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kds315* wrote:
I second Tobias full heartedly!!!
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cledry wrote:
Very nice. BTW there is a stray hair on the second scan.  |
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hexi wrote:
Older stuff , vintage rendition, i like the first one kinda "lith" compared to the second one, bith are great.
But pic 3  one of the best shots i've seen lately. congratz
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Orio wrote:
The first picture is more pictorial (poetic).
The second picture resolves much better the details, especially in the shadows.
Photographically speaking the second picture wins hands down I think.
However there can be room for the first picture also if the viewer is more oriented to the romantic side.
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patrickh wrote:
#2 for me as well, but I also love #3. A wonderful B+W series
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alex wrote:
Number three is the one for me. I thought at first it was my tinnitus playing up, but I really can hear the falling water.
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Jesito wrote:
All thre are outstanding. I like very much the #1.
The waterfall is superb, thanks for sharing!.
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PaulC wrote:
I must be a romantic, I like both the Bessa shots, especially No 3 which is superb.
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Nesster wrote:
Why thank you folks- I'm liking both cameras/lenses, and see the latitude in processing makes for a very large area of variability. The thing that excites me is that the Bessa with its Vaskar, with the 6x9 negative, manages to resolve so much. The larger negative seems more forgiving, with 35mm everything has to be just right to get optimal sharpness.
(In case it isn't clear, #1 is the Pentax, the other two are Bessa)
Here's one more with the 28mm... I haven't yet finished developing and scanning all the film
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Neare wrote:
Seems the Bessa is far better at capturing the motion in the image. The pentax is really well detailed, but also.. perhaps too precise. |
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Nesster wrote:
That's an astute observation!
I stopped down the Vaskar to f/11-f/16, with resulting shutter speeds of 1 sec to 1/8 or so. With the 28, I figured I did not need (or want) such a small aperture, so these were f/8, or sometimes f/11. Faster shutter speeds are the result.
#3 is my favorite as well, things came together on that shot.
Here's another same scene comparison - first Bessa then Pentax:
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