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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: What are your most expensive lenses? TOP TEN... Reply with quote

I always say that I try to find real bargains, but recently I have found out that I have quite a few lenses that cannot be called "cheap".
Please, do not misunderstand that. I know that for example a Leica Summicron 90 for € 150,- still would be a "bargain", but I would not call it "cheap".

This is my lens list in order of the price I've paid:

1. Tokina AT-X Pro 12-24
2. Sigma DC 17-70
3. Peleng 3.5/8
4. Nikkor-S.C 1.2/55
5. Zenitar 2.8/16
6. Canon EF 75-300 USM III
7. Canon EF 1.8/50 II
8. Nikkor-O 2.0/35
9. Nikkor-N.C 2.8/24
10. Tokina 4/80-200 (for which I paid way too much!)

Then there are lenses like the Jupiter-9, the Tamron SP 60-300 and some others pretty close...

What I realise is that I started to pay more for a lens, then I bought many really cheap ones and lately I started to buy rather more expensive ones again - apart from the odd exception which I got for under € 10,- Wink

Did you go through a similar "development"?



P.S.:Some other rather expensive lense (but which I have sold again to pay for other lenses) were Canon EF 2.8/28, Tamron XR 28-300, Canon EF 24-85 (which really is a nice lens. I sometimes miss it.)


PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same number 1 with LucisPictor Very Happy
for my 2 pentax I will wait for the list of cheaper lens Razz

tokina 12-24
contax 100 2.8
contax 28 2.0
tamron 17-50
contax 85 1.4
contax 28-85
contax 35-70
contax 25
contax 60
contax 28 2.8


PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tamron SP 180mm f2.5 Anniversary lens only 3000 made
Meyer-Optik Görlitz Primoplan 75mm f1.9 Exakta
Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 75mm f1.5
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 80mm f1.8
Olympus OM 300mm f4.5
etc,etc


Based on performance/price my most expensive lens Olympus AF kit lens, I never use it.


PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never spent more than 600-650 Euros for a single lens. That's as far as I want to go, perhaps for some extraordinary bargain I could reach the 800 or so but certainly not more. Beyond that, I would classify the expense as pure immotivated luxury.

So this excludes me automatically from the L class of Canon lenses (for which exclusion I do not suffer) and alas also from a few manual lenses (such as the Contax Apotessar 300) for which exclusion I do suffer (silently) Wink

My most expensive lenses have been a couple Contax lenses, around 600 Euros each, the Canon EF 2/100, for which I don't remember how much I spent but anyway too much, and the Sigma 10-20, my worst 500 Euros that I ever spent, a lens that is beaten hands down by all my copies of the 40-years-old Flektogon 4/20, under all respects (clarity, distortion, edge performance, colour rendition).
Then, a couple of Leica lenses around 300-350 Euros each, and one of my Helios-40-s for which I spent the same money.

The rest is "normal administration", that is, lenses within the 150, max. 200 Euros range. Within the "normal administration" range, the most expensive have been the CZJ Sonnars 180 and 200, both around the 200 Euros each.


PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
I never spent more than 600-650 Euros for a single lens. That's as far as I want to go, perhaps for some extraordinary bargain I could reach the 800 or so but certainly not more. Beyond that, I would classify the expense as pure immotivated luxury.

That's why I have never spent more than € 400,-, not even for my most expensive lens, No.2 was about € 300,- and No. 3 down to only about € 200,- already.

Orio wrote:
So this excludes me automatically from the L class of Canon lenses (for which exclusion I do not suffer) and alas also from a few manual lenses (such as the Contax Apotessar 300) for which exclusion I do suffer (silently) Wink

Laughing Very Happy

Orio wrote:
... and the Sigma 10-20, my worst 500 Euros that I ever spent, a lens that is beaten hands down by all my copies of the 40-years-old Flektogon 4/20, under all respects (clarity, distortion, edge performance, colour rendition).

Actually, I have never regretted that I spent the most money on my Tokina 4/12-24. This is an excellent lens!
Have you tried another copy of the Sigma?

Orio wrote:
The rest is "normal administration", that is, lenses within the 150, max. 200 Euros range. Within the "normal administration" range, the most expensive have been the CZJ Sonnars 180 and 200, both around the 200 Euros each.

That's a difference between us, Orio. My "normal administration" lies somewhere between 20 and 60 Euros. And I love to find a lens for under € 10,- Wink


PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poilu wrote:
I have the same number 1 with LucisPictor Very Happy
for my 2 pentax I will wait for the list of cheaper lens Razz

tokina 12-24
contax 100 2.8
contax 28 2.0
tamron 17-50
contax 85 1.4
contax 28-85
contax 35-70
contax 25
contax 60
contax 28 2.8


I find it most amazing that you got the Contax 85, 25 and 28-85 for less money than the Tamron 17-50.


PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pentax kit lens is the most expensive I have. It's my only AF lens Razz


PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

niblue wrote:
Riku wrote:
Pentax kit lens is the most expensive I have. It's my only AF lens Razz


The kit lenses are "worth" about 10p (ok, actually about ?40 as that's what they sell for on Ebay), I've had two and both have been extremely unimpressive (soft corners and vignetting) - still better than the awful Canon 18-55 kit lens though!

The Pentax 16-45 F4 is a much, much better lens than the 18-55.


But it's the one I paid the most. I don't think it's the most valuable, but I don't have anything else for wideangle.


PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 - Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 AF, brand new, 300 Eur.-
2 - Peleng fish-eye 8 f/3.5, 90 Eur.-
3 - SMC Pentax 50 f/1.4, 50 Eur.- with a Pentax Electro-Spotmatic body
4 - MTO 3M-5CA 5PP f/8, 32 Eur.- including shipping from Netherland to France and a Praktica BCA body
5 - Helios 135 f/2.8, 20 Eur.-

All my other lenses cost me 10 Eur-. or less. I think I will pay no more than 100 Eur-. for a lens, even if I can have a nice copy of well know gem for half the price... I'm not a collector, juste wana play a little and make some nice shoots of my family.


PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

niblue wrote:
The kit lenses are "worth" about 10p


You got that right.

Quote:
still better than the awful Canon 18-55 kit lens though!

I made the mistake of buying one simply to have something at the wider end of things as cheaply as possible. Really, I'd have been better putting the cash towards something more decent. It's ok for snapshots, and that's about it - under some circumstances it doesn't do too badly, but as soon as it gets a chance to show some CA and softness, it will, a lot. Once bitten and all that. I'll be keeping an eye out for something Russian and wide from now on.


PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Novoflex 400 system
2. Noflexar 600 head and teleconverter.
And not finished on spending on that yet - need another couple of minor bits to complete it.

3. Tamron SP 60-300
4. All the rest have come in at under 30Euros each - most well under that. One or two have been crap, but most produce reasonable results, some outstandingly so. The best bang for the buck must be the Tair 11A and the Tamron SP90 (though that was a fluke).


PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: What are your most expensive lenses? TOP TEN... Reply with quote

Boy I'm feeling left out.
All mine were cheap - and I don't know how I totally feel about joining the ranks of the pricey lens owners. Embarassed I'm not a collector - I'm coming back into photography, so . . .

I might be practicing false economy, but I'm loving the results of what I got.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine most expensive is CAJ Flek 35mm f2.4 for $125 + S&H.. and there was focussing issue.. I paid $15 for focus correction... so total price was $150...
Second is CZ Planar 50mm f1.7 for $125.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@j.lukow
Some of the best known pictures were taken with consumer point and shoots (brownie stands out). This forum is full of photographers (and I do not use the word lightly) who have made it a point of honour to buy lenses for what they are worth not what others decide is the price. We can all point you to forums where the "average" joe is spending upwards of $1K to produce often mediocre pictures but can claim bragging rights to owning the latest and greatest. One forum has a thread that has been running for more than six months on one of the most expensive lenses out there, and frankly I have seen product as good on this forum from lenses costing tens or possibly hundreds of euros tops. It's the eye behind the lens that counts. This thread is amusing not for the huge amounts paid, but the VALUE obtained.


IMHO for what it's worth

patrickh


PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread was not started to show-off really expensive lenses, but on the contrary, to show that non of us "normally" buys those really very expensive lenses.
As you have said, Patrick, in other forums the members try to outshine each other by buying lenses that cost thousands of Dollars/Euros.
Here members might have some expensive lenses, but most of the lists quickly show lenses that were not expensive but offer great value - just like you said.

In my case that reads like 1 lens for €400,-, one for 300,- and one for 200,-, three for 100something and the rest for under 100,- and many even for under 20,-

These lists directly show that we value lenses that provide great performance and not those with high prices. This was the intention of this thread...


PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my list, prices from 10€ to 70€

1. Pentax SMC DA 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL
2. Jupiter-9 85mm F2
3. Tair 11A 135mm F2.8
4. Tamron SP 90mm F2.5
5. Vivitar 135mm F2.8
6. Tokina RMC 28mm F2.8
7. Canon FD 50mm F1.8
8. Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston 50mm F1.8
9. Tamron 35-135mm F3.5-4.5
10. Tamron 35-70mm F3.5


PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: What are your most expensive lenses? TOP TEN... Reply with quote

I guess this is my first faux-pas but, but my tongue was in cheek Embarassed .

Thanks patrickh for your reply. Its something I agree with and second it was the reason why I dove back into 35mm photography -you have a proven technology allowing you to show your artistic side and you don't have to form a line behind the techno sheep and those who think $$=talent.


PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

niblue wrote:
The kit lenses are "worth" about 10p (ok, actually about ?40 as that's what they sell for on Ebay), I've had two and both have been extremely unimpressive (soft corners and vignetting) - still better than the awful Canon 18-55 kit lens though!


Not disagreeing with you, but I find the Canon kit lens is quite useful when I'm taking pictures for my work. I've never seen any vignetting and the IQ and zoom range is fine for my needs. Also it saves time over changing prime lenses. The only issue I have is when it starts hunting to find correct focus and then chooses a focus point I don't need! Let's get back to talking about MF lenses, shall we?


PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Want to know the ironical thing? In the end (before I gave up AF almost completely) I was using the kit lens always in what I call "semi-manual" mode, that is, I first autofocused on one point near the target area then adjusted manually - exactly because it saved a lot of time over the continuously chasing AF movements. But the barrel quality was real junk for manual focusing.


PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My list in descending order: (you should be able to spot some really good bargains)

>?25
1 CZJ Flektogon MC 2.8/20 auto
2 S-M-C Takumar 2.8/28, 1.8/55 and 3.5/135 (three together as a set)
3 CZJ Pancolar MC 1.8/50 electric
4 Tamron 23A SP 60-300
5 Tamron 01A SP 35-80
6 CZJ MC S 3.5/135
7 Jupiter 21M
8 Super Takumar 3.5/35

?20-25
9 Pentacon 4/200 (preset)

?15-20
10 Mir-1B

?10-15
11 Jupiter 37A
12 Meyer Orestor 2.8/135
13 CZJ Tessar 2.8/50
14 Tamron 103A 80-210

?5-10
15 Helios 44-2
16 Helios 44M-4
17 Mir-24M

?1-5
18 CZJ Flektogon MC 2.4/35
19 Industar 3.5/50
20 Super Takumar 1.4/50

<?1
21 Tamron 03A 80-210


PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I don't know how I totally feel about joining the ranks of the pricey lens owners


everything has to do with how much money you want to spend for your hobby. I made super photo with my yashica T5 (new for 150e). It was my first Zeiss T* and it is one of the reason I buy so many contax now they are 'affordable'.

Last June I go to Paris & Disneyland with my wife and girl and I spent 5000e for 10 days holidays (with plane). It was nice but you know family holiday is more stress than anything. We have to see everything very fast and I almost use only video while walk. If I had to use my manual lens I would lost my wife & child in 5 min.

Imagine I had 5000e to buy lens. I would have only Leica.
Not realistic when you have a family but it help me forget when I give 300e for a lens.
For me 300e it is 2 night in a modest hotel in Paris. And the hotel nights I cannot sell them back. The 300e lens I will sell it back and if I lost money it will be like renting cost.

Photography is a luxury.
Everybody know you can make good photos with less money.
Everybody know that a 4000e used car do the same job as a 20000e mercedes...



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly! We are lucky so many cheap mf lenses available on the market.


PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Peter. There definitely are some good bargains.
I wonder why some of the Tamron zoom lenses go for so little money!

Wait a minute! You got a MIR-24 for under 10 quid and a Tak 1.4/50 for under 5? Incredible!!!


PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poilu wrote:
For me 300e it is 2 night in a modest hotel in Paris. And the hotel nights I cannot sell them back.


But they might pay you back! Don't forget that some experiences are priceless! Wink


PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MF only:

1. Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8
2. CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8
3. CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 ex.
4. CZJ eMC Flektogon 20/2.8
5. Helios 40-2 85/1.5
6. SMC Takumar 35/2
7. Schneider-Kreuznach Curtagon 35/2.8
8. Schneider-Kreuznach Tele-Xenar 135/3.5
9. Schneider-Kreuznach Baby C 35/2.8
10. Super Takumar "PRO" 35/2

//ed: I forgot Yashinon 55/1.2 - should be between Distagon and Pancolar


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