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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon MC 2.8/20 M42 |
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tobbsman wrote:
Just checked if someone opened already a thread about this classic, seems not.
Here are 24 samples of this gem. Some ponos amongst them. Meybe it's not the sharpest of all lenses (especially in the corners), but it has a big soul ...
is this folder I have 50 different photographs with the Flek 20/2.8:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12447266@N05/sets/72157622584226873/
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Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
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Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4573 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
OMG, your photos from the alps are so stunning
your Panos are great too, no doubt, but looking at the cows, the mist and clouds, sunrays and autumn leaves in the alpine setting makes me see my home country in the most beautiful eyes, Tobias thank you for that!
real pro work, so hard to pick favs, No 2, 4, 5!!!, 6, 14, well, really all, and No 18!!! and 19!!, the B&W from Vienna 15, 17... _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
So many outstanding pictures! I like them all! _________________ -------------------------------
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natebarnz
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 331 Location: Los Angeles / Tucson
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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natebarnz wrote:
Wonderful set. I must say I like them all but #5 really stands out to my personal taste. Great work, thanks for sharing! _________________ 500D / SPII / FTn / Contax D / 137MA / Contaflex
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ludoo
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Milan, Italy
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
Beautiful pictures. No. 5 is really special. Others too, but I lost count (plus, many are too large for my monitor). _________________ My galleries
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Geoff C. Bassett
Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Posts: 157 Location: Chatham, MA
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Geoff C. Bassett wrote:
I absolutely adore #6. Fantastic image. _________________ Opticlust.com |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 7:58 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Many many thanks for the feedback !
@Andreas
Much too kind words of you
Most of the alps shots here are from around Saalfelden, Maria Alm, Weißbach, Lofer ... do you remember some places?
I thought to remember that you told once that you have been in the army base in Saalfelden... right ?
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4573 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
much OT, @ Tobias:
Saalfelden, Maria Alm, Weißbach, Lofer, Tobias sure I know the places.
Not from having served there in the army ( coincidentally a brother of mine did, as 'Gebirgsjäger' ) you must have mixed that up. I was found 'psychologically disabled' for military service ( some may not be surprised ) and had spent that year as exchange student in the US instead
Know the places because I was lucky to have a father who took us on vacations as a kid, great skiing there! Abt. 15 years ago I was there a few times visiting a friend and doing a market stall at the Saalfelden jazz festival. These last years I had been visiting friends in Kufstein, Tirol, and man, do I enjoy the countryside there, very much hope to get there again in the future! _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 803 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:08 am Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Wow - beautiful presentation of this lens.
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
@ Andreas
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Saalfelden, Maria Alm, Weißbach, Lofer, Tobias sure I know the places.
Not from having served there in the army ( coincidentally a brother of mine did, as 'Gebirgsjäger' ) you must have mixed that up. I was found 'psychologically disabled' for military service ( some may not be surprised Wink ) and had spent that year as exchange student in the US instead Smile
Know the places because I was lucky to have a father who took us on vacations as a kid, great skiing there! Abt. 15 years ago I was there a few times visiting a friend and doing a market stall at the Saalfelden jazz festival. These last years I had been visiting friends in Kufstein, Tirol, and man, do I enjoy the countryside there, very much hope to get there again in the future! |
Ok, definitly mixed that up. I tried to be "untauglich" too, but they didn't believe me ... So I did the civil duty at the ambulance for a year
The Jazz-festival is still every summer ...
Cheeers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
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Orio
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I vote for #4 and #6, but like the others said, the selection is all of impressive quality! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Tervueren
Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 1177 Location: West Sussex, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Tervueren wrote:
Fantastic photos, very atmospheric, thanks for sharing.
What a beautiful part of the world you live.
John |
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gaeger
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 715 Location: Brier, Wash.
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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gaeger wrote:
Love the B&W of the oncoming cows! _________________ "Here's to the wonder" -- Alan Boyle
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OM
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 166 Location: Southern England
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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OM wrote:
gaeger wrote: |
Love the B&W of the oncoming cows! |
+1
Stunning collection - thanks. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Excellent work. Just excellent!!! _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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junpher
Joined: 18 Aug 2010 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:38 am Post subject: |
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junpher wrote:
I love them all.I do really want to have so wonderful a lens |
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gorbesz
Joined: 09 Apr 2011 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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gorbesz wrote:
I have recently bought a zebra Flektogon 4/20. What do you guys think, the 2,8 (also the MC) should be sharper? _________________ D/SLR Rig: Canon EOS 500D+grip, Zenit 11+Helios 44m-4
Accessories: GorillaPod SLR Zoom, Velbon Tripod
Lenses: Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, 18-55mm kitlens,
M42's: CZJ Pancolar 1,8/50, CZJ Flektogon 4/20, CZJ Sonnar 3,5/135, CZJ Tessar 2,8/50, MC MIR-20M, Helios 44M-4, Pentacon 2,8/29, Mir-1B
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
gorbesz wrote: |
I have recently bought a zebra Flektogon 4/20. What do you guys think, the 2,8 (also the MC) should be sharper? |
Yes, if it hasn't been messed with although infinity focus can be quite easily tweaked if necessary.
Flek 4/20 pros & cons:
Pros:
Somewhat better corrected than the 2.8 regarding distortion.
Possibly cheaper to get than the 2.8.
Cons:
Not as sharp as the 2.8 - needs stopped down a bit more.
1 stop slower than the 2.8 - not necessarily a problem though.
Single coated so somewhat more flare prone.
Not quite as contrasty - that's equally not necessarily a problem and could even be a pro depending on what look you want.
Might need focus helix regreased.
Flek 2.8/20 MC pros & cons:
Pros:
Can be sharper than the 4/20.
Multi-coated.
1 stop faster - if you need it, but don't expect it to be supersharp, especially in the corners.
Cons:
Not quite as well corrected as the 4/20 but is rarely a problem unless architecture is involved and any curvature bugs the hell out of you.
Although multi-coated, it's not T* standard so no straight into the sun miracles.
Aperture blades can stick due to oil etc.
Might need the focus helix regreased.
Seems to be getting quite expensive now.
Both are good lenses though and if either lens is a good copy that hasn't been buggered around with, you're likely to be happy with either. I have both and they both get equal air time depending on the mood I want. |
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Just beautiful. Great photography and such a beautiful place. _________________ Ron |
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sarrasani
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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sarrasani wrote:
Thank you much for sharing and clap hands. |
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triton76
Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:41 am Post subject: blend a Flektogon |
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triton76 wrote:
maybe a bit off topic ;o)
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