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Katastrofo
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 Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: To frame or not to frame.... |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I'm of the opinion that sometimes a good frame works a certain
synergism in a picture. I really wasn't completely happy with this
picture until I did this:
I know this is atypical subject matter, but doing this seemed to "turn
the light on" in the picture. Luv to hear comments...
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Attila wrote:
I like thinner frame , this is too thick to me.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
How about this:
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Closer, try to make more less border or a one thin line beetween the picture and border with other color (white example).
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Attila, this is all pretty new to me, but will work some more on it
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Your very welcome! Let we see the result!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
I think a wide border can sometimes look really good. The black sections in your picture merging into the black border is really quite effective. Generally black borders aren't my cup of tea - they remind me of black-edged funeral cards! 
I deliberately made a wide (white) border on this picture to emulate the wide border insert card in picture frames. It would probably look better if it was wider.
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I actually like the large border in Bill's image. Although usually I favour thinner sizes.
I think large borders for digital images play more the role of passe-partout than that of frames: they create an environmental perceptual space more than simply cutting the image out of the context. They become part of the image itself.
Nothing of course beats a real print in a real frame on a wall.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio,
Environmental perceptual space, is exactly what I was striving for, as
having no frame at all seemed to be "bleeding" the light out of the
photograph where having the thick border contained the light, if that
makes sense. This is for internet, web, display where physical renderings,
actual prints mounted for a wall, may take on different needs. I'll be
experimenting with different styles and thickness of frames after work
today.
Peter, I think the border looks great in your picture!
Attila, will try the thin, different colored border you suggested, thanks!
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
Bill, your first frame is a really dark green, right?
(I just ask because Peter mentioned a black frame.)
Sometimes I like a wide frame but I always would recommend to put a 1pt black line (or very dark grey) around the actual image and then the frame. That provides a better separation and in my eyes makes the whole picture complete. Try it...
Also Peters shot could win with such a line, I think.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Carsten, yes, both my frames are a very dark green, will try your
suggestion, thanks!
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Well, I tried Carsten's idea tonight:
If I ever printed this pic, I'd want a frame very similar to this, but that's
just me.
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Orio wrote:
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I would rather keep the green as passe partout like in original image, and add a small black frame outside of the green.
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Katastrofo wrote:
That will be my next try, thanks, Orio.
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spkennedy3000 wrote:
I like your first version best 
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
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| I like your first version best |
Me too! |
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
It's kind of funny, but I like the first one the best, too. Simon and Peter,
both of you are architects, did you ever take the Myers-Briggs Personality
Test? I did ages ago in the navy, and found out I was an INTP, Architect.
No where near an architect in real life, but I did design and build 2
rustic homes and helped design and build a 3rd, and architecture has
always been an interest of mine.
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LucisPictor wrote:
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Well, I tried Carsten's idea tonight:
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No, sorry, you got me wrong. What I meant is a line just 1pt wide, you know just a very thin black line which has no function but to separate the image from the frame.
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LucisPictor wrote:
Like this:
Or with a tiny drop shadow:
Or with a little "glow":
Sorry for hijacking your pic, just wanted to show what I meant...
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I like really the last one Capten.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I like Attila's and Carsten's last one! But Bill, him don't know nothing about
all this fancy stuff, but him gonna find out!
Thanks fellas! 
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Attila wrote:
I use Ulead Photoimpact for framing, this software is dirt cheap compare with Photoshop and I believe good as than Photoshop or better for me.
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peterqd wrote:
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| Peter's shot could win with such a line, I think. |
I didn't like the 1px wide line. How about this Carsten?
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Peter, nice effect! It's like looking out a window upon this scene!  |
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