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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: testing my lenses - part 95 - Meyer Goerlitz Domiplan 50mm |
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WolverineX wrote:
Meyer Goerlitz Domiplan 50mm/2.8
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Your Domiplan has pop! Nice results in good light _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
yes, but i don't like the ergonomics of this lens, akward to use, at least for me _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Nice samples!
I like the Domiplan rendering (at least more than the Tessar 50/2.8 rendering).
How is the corner perfomance? _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
How is the corner perfomance? |
well, i didn't crop these samples so you can judge for yourself, but keep in mind i use Oly E-520 _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Neil Purling
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 37
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: 50mm Domiplan |
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Neil Purling wrote:
I am not entirely sure why the Domiplan was regarded as being such a lemon by the photographic press.
Is it optical snobbery, because of it's Socialist origin or is there reason for the poor reputation?
The ergonomics of the lens don't make life easy for the camera user. The focus ring is far too thin & should have been of a different texture to make it obvious by touch which ring was which.
I wonder if the Domiplan was a conversion of a 50mm manual diaphragm lens or a preset type? I just wondered why the aperture ring wound be in front of the focus ring.
I suspect that if the lens does have poor performance then it would show as corners that don't sharpen up till f8 or low contrast.
I haven't seen for myself yet. I dug it out of the back of my camera cupboard only recently & have to develope the rolls I have shot so far.
I have not seen anybody's work that shows the edge performance from a negative scan or a full-frame CCD sensor. _________________ Leica IIIa c/w 50/3.5 Elmar and several Soviet lenses: J12, J8, Ind 22 & Ind 61LD
Nikon FE with 55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor, 50/1.8 Nikkor AIS 'pancake' and 50mm f2 Arsat-H (nikon AI)
Praktica MTL5 with 30mm f3.5 Lydith, 50/2.9 Meritar, 50mm f2.8 Domiplan, 50mm f3.5 Industar, 58mm Helios & 55mm f1.8 Takumar
Yashica Mat TLR
4x5 Crown Graphic with 6" Beck Biplanat rapid-rectilinear in a Copal #1 & 127mm f4.7 Ektar in Supermatic shutter. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Its a triplet.
It would be the successor to the Ludwig Meritar that was commonly seen on 1950's SLR's.
I never tried it but I would guess it has the limitations of any standard triplet, mainly being poor corners on the intended format.
This is probably much less visible on a crop format. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: Re: 50mm Domiplan |
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Farside wrote:
Neil Purling wrote: |
I am not entirely sure why the Domiplan was regarded as being such a lemon by the photographic press.
Is it optical snobbery, because of it's Socialist origin or is there reason for the poor reputation?
The ergonomics of the lens don't make life easy for the camera user. The focus ring is far too thin & should have been of a different texture to make it obvious by touch which ring was which.
I wonder if the Domiplan was a conversion of a 50mm manual diaphragm lens or a preset type? I just wondered why the aperture ring wound be in front of the focus ring.
I suspect that if the lens does have poor performance then it would show as corners that don't sharpen up till f8 or low contrast.
I haven't seen for myself yet. I dug it out of the back of my camera cupboard only recently & have to develope the rolls I have shot so far.
I have not seen anybody's work that shows the edge performance from a negative scan or a full-frame CCD sensor. |
My Domi is quite acceptable at f:8 on an APS-C sensor, but on FF it's a bit of a dog in teh corners, as they all seem to be.
PeterQD had experience of them when they were new and he wasn't impressed
However, because I use mine on crop cams, I'll hang on to it for a while yet. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:38 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
It's quite simple, some domiplans are good, some are garbage, copy variation is high with this lens.
The biggest problem with it is the truly awful build quality, it can just fall apart, two of mine did, others have had the same experience.
The earlier Trioplan is more highly regarded, it wasn't made so cheaply and is actually a pretty nice lens.
Neither the Trioplan nor the Meritar are as good as the Tessar though, and need to be stopped down to give their best. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
new samples using E-M5
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 2877
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:36 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Lol, even the dreaded domiplan sings in your hands. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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tao
Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 241 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:37 am Post subject: |
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tao wrote:
I know I have a domiplan with sands in the helicoid for several years now. I better have it cleaned if I can find where it is. I have never want to touch it until I see your photos here. Thank you. |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:16 am Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
With pp is almost impossible to present no good pics taken with triplets at f/11or f/16.
The tessar design rendering at f/16 should be better than the rendering of the planar at the same aperture.
My experience with the domiplan is : take a tessar.
Anyway, very nice pics. |
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
Very nice images. My copy was awful. Even at f/8 it did not look as sharp as your samples.
However, it was better than I expected on film.
Maybe I'll give it another try one of these days, on the E-M5. I only used it on SLRs before. _________________ http://www.ipernity.com/home/2419272
https://laurphoto.blogspot.com/ |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Domagoj: Is it that your copy is unusually good? Your pictures have a 3-D pop more often seen from FF, not 4/3. I've noticed more than a few times that your M5 is producing wonderful images. Do you have Primagon? I wonder how it would do with the M5. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
Really nice samples! |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:20 am Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Domagoj: Is it that your copy is unusually good? Your pictures have a 3-D pop more often seen from FF, not 4/3. I've noticed more than a few times that your M5 is producing wonderful images. Do you have Primagon? I wonder how it would do with the M5. |
i don't know if my copy of the lens is better than others
so far, i didn't acquire Primagon _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I meant to ask also, what apertures did you use? _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1694 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
I meant to ask also, what apertures did you use? |
wide open, because aperture is stuck wide open _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Imho, almost all schames in no MC lenses have the better rendering from f/113 and especially at f/11 and f/16. Not matter if it's a triplet, a tessar, hibrid planar/ sonnar, sonnar, etc.
With the MC the rendering turns better af eides apertures, in that way the planar design becomes better from f/4 to f/8.
I hve seen few lenses that were outside of those principles. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:17 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Well, I have done it. I have purchased this much maligned lens. While I do feel challenged to try, I don't expect to match these results. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:04 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I look forward to seeing what you can do with it,there are a few different versions of this lens. Some versions are reported to be better than others. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:37 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
mo wrote: |
I look forward to seeing what you can do with it,there are a few different versions of this lens. Some versions are reported to be better than others. |
Oh? Can you point me to more information on that? Can anything be learned from this picture of mine?
_________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:00 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I will try and find the info,I am hoping I have it book marked...I came across it while looking for something else.
Here are the versions down the bottom end of the page...many thanks to the Author of this website for wonderful information.
http://www.dresdner-kameras.de/objektive/objektive.html
I must confess, I think I remember from a previous discussion with a friend about the possible quality variations of the Domiplans.That the early ones were possibly better...speculation on my part,unless I find some more info buried in my collection of bits and pieces. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:35 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Thank you for that, Mo. Although the pictures didn't include the M42 Zebra that I have, based on the serial numbers, I'll guess mine is late '60s and the same as the last two Exakta models. I have noticed while looking elsewhere that the front on some do not include the serial numbers as does mine and the ones pictured at the link you provided. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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