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Shooting the collection on A7(r) :)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hifisapi wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
Today I arranged to return my A7r. A7 will arrive Wednesday Smile

why are you replacing a a7r with an a7?


At first I thought the A7r had more center pop even with reduced files, but as I saw alot of good shooters working with it, I just did not see that anymore. I hope LOL

then we have colorshift issues which are related to smearing to some degree I think, but it's nice to have less of that for sure.

next is the first curtain shutter: quieter.

FIle size: it wasn't too bad but smaller would be nicer.

and not least: 600 bucks. I can pay for something with that Smile

This is the first time I've ever returned a camera, and I never thought about it till the tenth time I told someone to get the A7 instead of the A7r. So I called B&H and asked. Smile


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And can someone put me out of my misery. That range finder lens attached to the A7 I quoted. please tell me that's not an industar 22 Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tromboads wrote:
And can someone put me out of my misery. That range finder lens attached to the A7 I quoted. please tell me that's not an industar 22 Laughing


It isn't. Look at the aperture ring. Too bad I sold my I-22. I need to reacquire before I get the A7 Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evil.. you an an evil evil man Razz

Someone take a photo of it with an M42 mounted industar 50? Twisted Evil


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tromboads wrote:
And can someone put me out of my misery. That range finder lens attached to the A7 I quoted. please tell me that's not an industar 22 Laughing


nope... it's a FED (LTM) Wink



PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that's ok then Razz

But just whats that old glass doing hanging around such a young girl like that A7 anyway. People will talk! Razz

What other wonderfully inappropriate lenses do you have to court the a7 Twisted Evil

I can't help myself, but new technology just looks ridiculously wonderful once mated to glass born not long after the transistor Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


DSC05900-2 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC01931-3 by unoh7, on Flickr


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DSC01925 by unoh7, on Flickr

1956 red scale elmar


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gariz has started making stuff for the A7(R) Very Happy



More stuff here:
http://blog.naver.com/gary1111


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*rocks silently in his chair*

must not.. collect more lenses. must not.. colllec...


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as no one goes and put something as common as a CZJ 135/3.5 on the front of the A7r and posts the results I should be able to resist. Thankfully I have no exotic lenses to speak of.. .. Wink


PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, how about something radioactive?

Canon FD 35/2 SSC concave thorium:


DSC04369 by unoh7, on Flickr

above at f/8, below f/2 on A7r


DSC04149-2 by unoh7, on Flickr


PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hay I've got that coffee maker. Its rubbish :p

Shame on you :p

Also, vodka and Pepsi? Why not tonic and lime? Maybe even a slice of orange, a cinimon stick?


PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also is that your front yard?


PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tromboads wrote:
*rocks silently in his chair*

must not.. collect more lenses. must not.. colllec...


Laughs in a deep baritone with echo sound effects turned on ..............
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tromboads wrote:
*rocks silently in his chair*

must not.. collect more lenses. must not.. colllec...


Laughing Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


DSC00099-4 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC00114-2 by unoh7, on Flickr

Here with A7 (not R) and canon FD 35/2 SSC concave.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A7 + 28 cron:

DSC00157-2 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC00390 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC00432-2 by unoh7, on Flickr


PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know I don't mind those soft corners at all. Its gives each image a nice organic kinda, "I'm looking at a print from K-mart" feel about it. And that's not to discredit it! Actually in enhances it! Razz

I have fond memories of K-mart as an 6 yr old picking up these magical pieces of paper with pictures of me on them?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tromboads wrote:


But just whats that old glass doing hanging around such a young girl like that A7 anyway. People will talk! Razz



pmsl Laughing


PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my backcountry mainstays, Tele-Elmarit, first time on the A7 Smile


DSC00358 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC00367 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC00376 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC00662-3 by unoh7, on Flickr

Today I got the Hawks v3 Close focus M adapter, since the older ones vignette. Built like a tank, very tight, heli lock, and adjustable infinity. Pretty nice.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice samples! Very Happy
It's almost Christmas, and I will have more time to play with my camera as well Wink

The light is also very bad now, only a few hours of daylight during the day. There will be a couple of months before it's getting better...


PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhoh7 wrote:
Today I arranged to return my A7r. A7 will arrive Wednesday Smile


???...Are you mad? The A7r is currently the sharpest Bayer/CFA sensor camera in the world...OK, not Foveon X3 sensor sharp, but bloody sharp none the less. Here is a 100% crop comparison (from dpreview) between the A7r, the A7, the D800 and the 5D MkIII (sorry but I don't have a crop from the D800E to compare)...The A7r cannot be beat!


PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharpness barpness!

Sharpness is boring! I want character, mood, feeling, circles and vague thoughts!


PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DSG wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
Today I arranged to return my A7r. A7 will arrive Wednesday Smile


???...Are you mad? The A7r is currently the sharpest Bayer/CFA sensor camera in the world...OK, not Foveon X3 sensor sharp, but bloody sharp none the less. Here is a 100% crop comparison (from dpreview) between the A7r, the A7, the D800 and the 5D MkIII (sorry but I don't have a crop from the D800E to compare)...The A7r cannot be beat!


Just goes to show what little use those tests are in the real world. I think with the native lenses the A7r will be fine. It is highly flawed shooting all sorts of legacy glass 35 and wider. That's my opinion after thousands of shots with many lenses.

The A7 is far better with the legacy glass, though still flawed.

There are exceptions at 50mm and higher.

The extra rez of the A7r is gone by the time you see shots on your screen (a great one) and at anything but large print sizes.

So if AF sony glass is your thing, the A7r is fine. Otherwise I feel it is inferior. My own opinion coming from alot of use with glass I care about.

I have never sent a camera back before. I don't regret the switch. But each should make up their own mind. No doubt superb images can be made with the A7r and practically any lens. But frankly the M9 walks all over it in the real world: just because sony has covered their sensors with too many layers.

That was not the opinion I expected to have when I ordered the camera.


PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to business:


DSC00873 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC00862 by unoh7, on Flickr


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DSC00897 by unoh7, on Flickr

ZM 18, unusable on A7r, but I kinda like it on the A7. No corrections.