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Mal1905
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 Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: P6 to EOS Adapter Removal Problem |
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Mal1905 wrote:
Good morning,
I received a P6 mount lens last week but only have one P6 - EOS adapter, which is currently on another lens. No matter what force I apply, it refuses to move, and will not come off the lens.
Are there some magic words that I must whisper in order for the situation to come unstuck, or is it time for some percussive maintenance (in the form of a hammer)???
Thanks in advance for any/all advice.
M
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indianadinos
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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indianadinos wrote:
Hi,
Got the same issue with my P6-to-P/K adapter, solved with a bit of WD40 and a white sticker where i wrote "I will never play Hulk again when locking this damn collar" 
Cheers
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Farside
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
They do stick a bit - all you can do is apply slowly increasing brute force after heating it with a hair dryer or similar. One of those jar-top removal straps is just the thing. If it wasn't a lens attached to it, I'd dunk it in hot water. Of course, this tends to happen when you forget which way to turn it and tighten it to start with. 
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horvlas
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horvlas wrote:
I had a same issue. Lasso with a coax or any cable arount id. Stress and screw it with the cable. |
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Mal1905
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
Thanks for your help guys - have tried everything (except the hammer ), but it's not moving a millimetre.
Oh well, time to get another adapter and hope this one doesn't stick
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
| Mal1905 wrote: |
Thanks for your help guys - have tried everything (except the hammer ), but it's not moving a millimetre.
Oh well, time to get another adapter and hope this one doesn't stick |
I had the similar problem. I thought that I would never be able to unmount it. But then, all of a sudden, it moved. One of these rubber slings did the trick, these friction tools help.
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Mal1905
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
| LucisPictor wrote: |
| I had the similar problem. I thought that I would never be able to unmount it. But then, all of a sudden, it moved. One of these rubber slings did the trick, these friction tools help. |
Have decided that I'll leave it alone for a while and come back to it some time in the future - thanks for your help.
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PaulC
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PaulC wrote:
Mine likes to pretend it is stuck, and the harder you twist it the more it sticks. The solution seems to be to leave it for a moment and then give it a gentle twist and it flies undone. Strange but true.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have same issue with a Nikon adapter I did try to remove with force , result is aperture blades are gone... stucked, and adapter is still there.
I never had similar problem with genuine Exakta or M42 adapters.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
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| this tends to happen when you forget which way to turn it and tighten it to start with. |
This went through my mind too. Just to be certain, with the front of the lens pointing at your face, the breech lock has to be turned anti-clockwise to release the lens.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Use rubber bands to help grip.
If that fails, send it to me. 
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Farside
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
| PaulC wrote: |
| Mine likes to pretend it is stuck, and the harder you twist it the more it sticks. The solution seems to be to leave it for a moment and then give it a gentle twist and it flies undone. Strange but true. |
Mine's done that a couple of times - perhaps it's micro-welding  I suspect the adapters are made of alloy that's a bit too soft and it tends to take a grip surface to surface. Also, the softness lends itself to distortion and tight spots. A smear of silicone grease might help for future use.
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