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Asa100
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 Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: Meyer-Optik Helioplan 40mm/f 4.5 |
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Asa100 wrote:
The past friday i received this lens. Is very nice and externally is in excellent-mint condition. Unfortunately, haze is visible an one of the internal elements, which, I suppose, that it´s the reason of the lack of brightness, contrast and, probably, the C.A . The colors I believe that they are good.
The first shots I did with bad light last weekend.
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Haze can be impact IQ , this lens one of the greatest from Meyer product line.
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Haze can be impact IQ , this lens one of the greatest from Meyer product line. |
I concur, the Helioplan is pretty fantastic still today.
Mine had a fungus but a photorepairer friend opened and cleaned it very easily (it's a tessar scheme). For sure it worths a little expense for a CLA.
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/meyer/helioplan_40mm_4_5/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/meyer/helioplan_4_5_40/
Look above samples I suppose visible difference, need to clean your lens.
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Asa100
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Asa100 wrote:
 Yes!!
I will have to clean the lens. Or to buy other one. 
In close day I will receive a Primagon and I expect to be lucky more.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| Asa100 wrote: |
Yes!!
I will have to clean the lens. Or to buy other one.
In close day I will receive a Primagon and I expect to be lucky more. |
Due it's rarity not easy to buy a new one without problems.
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Asa100
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| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: After repair |
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Asa100 wrote:
I have cleaned my lens by a specialist. contrast and sharpness have improved markedly, in my opinion. These first test shoots were done about three weeks ago.
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Farside wrote:
Yes, major difference. It was well worth doing.
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Attila wrote:
Yes, it is,better! Merry Christmas!
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
I picked up my Helioplan by my repairman - it had hazy inner element and mechanical problems. Unfortunately, it was not only haze, but the repairman found out, that previous owner tried to clean it, scratched the V layer and assembled the lens in a wrong way.
Majority of my V Meyer lenses has damaged inner V layer (manual Primoplan 58/1.9, Telefogar 90/3.5, Helioplan 40/4.5 and Trioplan 100/2.8…), but it seems, that performance isn't affected. These early lenses have a simple optical design with only a few air/glass surfaces, so the old mediocre coating was possibly more a marketing than optical feature.
Anyway, the Helioplan is nicely sharp in center, but corners are weaker. I didn't find any form of CA. Just like other Meyer triplets (e.g. Trioplan 50/2.9). But there is one difference to Trioplans - bokeh at full aperture is smoother and OOF discs are soft and not ring shaped. I really like it 
at f/4.5 (open in new window to see full resolution)
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