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timo832000
 Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 545 Location: Germany / Cologne
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: how to get an interesting look and shallow DOF |
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timo832000 wrote:
Yesterday I made an interesting experiment, look at the results and guess what my intention was and what I did?
The only thing I will tell you is that I used my Pentax K10d (APSC) and a Leitz Summicron 90 @F2.
Have a nice day!
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visualopsins
 Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10362 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Mixed lighting? Looks like incandescent on your (camera) left side, to warm skin tones? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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timo832000
 Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 545 Location: Germany / Cologne
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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timo832000 wrote:
Okay, but I did not mean colors tones or lighting issues, this time I simply did not care about this. It was something else I have tried.
Let`s have a look on a crop:
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8310
 Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 123
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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8310 wrote:
Maybe I am wrong, but it looks kind of wide to me for 90mm on crop.
Did you take several pictures and stitched them together? Panorama-like?
That would explain the wide fov and one could also achieve pretty shallow dof. |
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timo832000
 Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 545 Location: Germany / Cologne
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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timo832000 wrote:
Thats it.
My intention was to get a kind of "medium format look-a-like",
so i tried to make a pano from a very near subject.
It was surprisingly easy to stitch the 16 images because I did not have any problems with non matching perspectives as I had expected.
The only tool I used was a simple tripod no pano head.
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MF-addicted
 Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 810 Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Cool work - near distance pano.
Will give it a trial, too.
Thanks. _________________
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8310
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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8310 wrote:
I've been planning to do this for quite a while now, but have been too lazy to actually do it.
Came out pretty well.
How much time between the first and the last picture? I imagine it might be hard for the model to not move a bit. She probably shouldn't even breathe.  |
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timo832000
 Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 545 Location: Germany / Cologne
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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timo832000 wrote:
I needed only one minute to take the sixteen pictures. Yes she was not allowed to move but after I had taken the first three rows I allowed her to move her eyes and her head again. At all I imagined it to be a bigger problem.
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egidio
 Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 225 Location: slovenia
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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egidio wrote:
nice! I was just doing that today on a shoot, managed to get very nice look with crop senzor. Photoshop photomerge method is very good these days.
Second thing you could do is to make compositing of few images with different focus points...you could make an entire image out of focus and than make a mask for let say legs and background. You could use slow 35mm for that, but compositing masks would show some errors on edges _________________ I use: Flektogon 2.8/20, Flektogon 2.8/35, planar 50mm/1.4, Takumar 1.4/50mm, Takumar 1.9/85, MIR 24H, Mir1v, Industar-50-2, Helios-44-2, Pentacon 2.8/135, cyclop 85 1.5 |
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poilu
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
nice experiment, great results! _________________ T* |
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RioRico
 Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1121 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
The quick & dirty way:
A fast wide lens and a closeup adapter.
For instance, Vivitar 24/2 and +1 dioptre meniscus. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Yeah, I guessed it immediately. It's the (in?)famous Branizer method, the Photoshop channel on Facebook posted a link to the concept and tutorial two days ago:
http://blog.buiphotography.com/2009/07/the-brenizer-method-explained-with-directions/
I have to say that you did it more moderately than the samples in the tutorial - which I appreciate, because in my mind the tutorial examples are on the "heavy" side.
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dfujevec
Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 43 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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dfujevec wrote:
Here is my first attempt. Just 4 pictures with old preset Takumar 135 f3,5 and Pentax K20d. Lens was wide open and my girlfriend was 2m away.
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spleenone
 Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1135 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
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Here is my first attempt. Just 4 pictures with old preset Takumar 135 f3,5 and Pentax K20d. Lens was wide open and my girlfriend was 2m away.
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I think you got something wider than full frame image. But good experimet. Girlfried had to be very patient. I should also try it =) _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
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then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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timo832000
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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timo832000 wrote:
Here is another one, my neighbours car, a vintage Porsche. Stitched from 60 images, captured with K10D & Summicron 90 @ 4, processed with PS CS3.
The Result is a 98mpix image.
Timo _________________ I love Leica ! But I need Pentax  |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
| timo832000 wrote: |
Here is another one, my neighbours car, a vintage Porsche. Stitched from 60 images, captured with K10D & Summicron 90 @ 4, processed with PS CS3.
The Result is a 98mpix image.
Timo |
Nice, must have been a full day work?
I like this stitching technique  _________________ Lars | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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TBaker
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:48 am Post subject: |
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TBaker wrote:
Love that Porsche.
I've started playing with this method some time ago.
This is shot with the 5D MKII with Tak SMC 50 1.4 wide open and about 40 shots.(damn sky was blown out and I missed it)
1951 Nash Canadian Statesman
...and this one more recently with 5D MKII and Canon 70-200 2.8 wide open and about 60 shots all merged in CS5.
Rock
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timo832000
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:45 am Post subject: |
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timo832000 wrote:
old railway:
Pentax K10D + Leitz Elmarit 2.8/135 @F8, stitched from 70 images, cropped.
Timo _________________ I love Leica ! But I need Pentax  |
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uhoh7
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
Inspirational thread.
I have a Soligar 135 f/2 c/d I really want to try this with outdoors. It has a very shallow DOF wide open. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L*  |
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bogolisk
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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bogolisk wrote:
| timo832000 wrote: |
old railway:
Pentax K10D + Leitz Elmarit 2.8/135 @F8, stitched from 70 images, cropped.
Timo |
Wow! I really like it! _________________ When I try to be a photographer I manage to add an f to art. |
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spleenone
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
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1951 Nash Canadian Statesman
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Lovely! _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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Olivier
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Wow !
That's a great topic !
Thank you. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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RioRico
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
So, nobody likes my suggestion of a fast wide lens with a +1 dioptre closeup meniscus strapped on? Bother...
NOTE: I eagerly await the arrival of a Vivitar-Kiron 24/2 so I can try this myself. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
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uhoh7
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:34 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
| RioRico wrote: |
So, nobody likes my suggestion of a fast wide lens with a +1 dioptre closeup meniscus strapped on? Bother...
NOTE: I eagerly await the arrival of a Vivitar-Kiron 24/2 so I can try this myself. |
I'd love to see it.
If it's really good we can call it the "riorico technique"!
I also eagerly await a 24 f/2, though it's an nFD. My kiron 28 is quite good. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L*  |
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Olivier
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
| RioRico wrote: |
So, nobody likes my suggestion of a fast wide lens with a +1 dioptre closeup meniscus strapped on? Bother...
NOTE: I eagerly await the arrival of a Vivitar-Kiron 24/2 so I can try this myself. |
I saw very good pictures taken by Bryan Peterson with a Nikkor 12-24mm + canon 500D close-up lens. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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