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pat donnelly

Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 669 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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These lenses are such good value, but in fact, due to quality issues and their popularity, it would be good to buy several examples from different vendors at different times.
The lovely soft focus ones are ideal for flattering moody portraits esp in low light.
Some of the others would be very interesting if they hit their intended performance limits? Tweaking these lenses might also alter their performance?
Selling on, would be easy with a few examples of that precise lens pics. Keep two or three for your own use.
I agree that most c mount lenses are overpriced. However, that does not mean they will not increase in price! _________________ ---------------------------------
EP-1, E-410, E-300, D100, D1,
C-Mt: 25mm 1.9, 75mm 1.4, 75mm 1.3, 75mm 1.9, Ultra wides, one inch sensor, 20+ c-mount zooms
OM 350mm f2.8, Nikkor 180 f2.8, Exa 180 f2.8,
Tamrons: 90mm f2.5, 500mm f8 x3, 135 f2.5, 200 f3.5, 24mm 2.5, 28mm 2.5 x8,
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ekoe
Joined: 28 Jul 2011 Posts: 44
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Y'know... I've had a bit of annoyance regarding the Fujian lenses because new users keep confusing it with the excellent Fujinon-TV c-mount lenses, and the edge softness is so apparent. But the images posted in this thread make me appreciate it as a fun, cheap lens that covers the APS-C sensor.
Out of curiosity, what other c-mount lenses cover the NEX sensor? Do you think, for instance, a Fujinon-TV 35mm/f1.7 model CF35 for 1" video will cover the NEX sensor? |
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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 16485 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| ekoe wrote: |
Out of curiosity, what other c-mount lenses cover the NEX sensor? Do you think, for instance, a Fujinon-TV 35mm/f1.7 model CF35 for 1" video will cover the NEX sensor? |
Well, the little brother of the Fujian 1.7/35, the 1.4/25 doesn't.  _________________ Personal forum activity on pause!
Carsten, Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
Sets:
Leica M8 - Voigtländer Heliar 4.5/15 & Ultron 2/28 & Ultron 1.7/35 & Heliar 2.5/75, Leica Summitar 2/50 & Elmar 4/90, Jupiter-3, Jupiter-8,
Sony NEX-7 / NEX-3 - Tamron 2.5/24, Pentax-110 2.8 (18/24/50/70), Fujian CCTV 1.7/35, Hexanon 1.8/40 & 1.4/57, Schneider-Kreuznach Tele-Xenar 3.8/75, Zuiko 2.8/100, Leica Hektor 4.5/135, Sony SEL 2.8/16 & 18-55 OSS & 55-210 OSS, Sigma EX 2.8/19 & 2.8/30
Canon EOS 5D - Zenitar 2.8/16, Rokkor 2/28, Summicron-R 2.0/50, Nikkor-SC 1.2/55, Nikkor 1.8/85, Tamron 2.5/135, Elmar 4/180, Tamron 8/500,
Tamron 2.8-3.8/35-80, Sigma EX 15-30, Sigma 1.8/24, Canon EF 1.8/50, Tokina AT-X Pro 24-200 (EOS), Sigma 70-300
Canon EOS 300D - Steinheil 2.8/35, Zuiko 1.4/50, Helios-44 2/58, Jupiter-9 2/85, Vivitar S1 2.3/135
Nikon D1 & Fuji S2 Pro - Tamron 2.5/28, MIR 2/35, Jupiter-37 3.5/135, Soligor 3.5/70-220, Tamron 18-200
Nikon D3100 - Nikkor AF-S 18-55VR, AF-S 18-70, AF-S 55-200
Ricoh KR10x - Pentax-M 1.7/50, Rikenon 3.4-4.5/35-70
Nikon F - Nikkor 2.8/24, Nikkor-SC 1.4/50 a.s.a.
Asahi Spotmatic SPII: CZJ Flek 4/20, Tamron 3.5/35-70, Industar 3.5/5cm, Mamiya 1.8/55
EXA Varex - CZJ Biogon 2/58
Leica IIIa syn & Zorki-4 - (LTM lenses)
Leica C2, Minox 35 GL,Yashica Electro 35 GS, Kodak Retina Ia, Agfa Super Silette, Vivitar Ultra Wide & Slim, Adox Golf 66 and some others...
Sigma DP1s, Leica Digilux 2, Lumix LC-5 & FX37, Lumix FZ20, Canon G2, Sony Mavica 300, Fuji 4800Z + 4900Z, Oly C3030, Pentax Optio S, Nikon CP950, Sony V1 & F505 a.s.m.
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ManualFocus-G


Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 5714 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if these perform any better on the new Nex, which seems to give better corner performance from wide lenses? _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooting things: Canon EOS 6D and 5D, Samsung NX11 with Carl Zeiss T*
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angin
Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 1 Location: indonesia
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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i use fujian 35/1.7 with nex3,its a lot fun with this tiny lens
flickr.com/photos/anakangin _________________ http://ybputro.zaplife.com/
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Nordentro


Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 1895 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Took this yesterday with the fujian
 _________________ "If you only shoot manual, why didn't you buy a manual lens from the start?!?" | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Attila


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 52349 Location: Budapest,Hungary
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| angin wrote: | i use fujian 35/1.7 with nex3,its a lot fun with this tiny lens
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pat donnelly

Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 669 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:48 am Post subject: |
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China has, not yet, taken Mt Fuji!
The naming is deliberate, but we lack locus standi to sue for the confusion!
The longer lens certainly has the better performance, but since they both are produced in the thousands still, I have neglected to buy them, despite 'watching' them for years!
The NEX has a good chance of minimal vignetting, but as the admirable Nordentro shows, the lens has good bang per buck, albeit on m4/3.
Even 1/2 inch sensor lenses, 8mm is actually very similar in coverage, will work at 38mm and above, at least for some lenses. I am just buying a D to c mount converter:-
Click here to see on Ebay
I wish to establish this for a navitar and a raptar, both 1.5 inches in FL. _________________ ---------------------------------
EP-1, E-410, E-300, D100, D1,
C-Mt: 25mm 1.9, 75mm 1.4, 75mm 1.3, 75mm 1.9, Ultra wides, one inch sensor, 20+ c-mount zooms
OM 350mm f2.8, Nikkor 180 f2.8, Exa 180 f2.8,
Tamrons: 90mm f2.5, 500mm f8 x3, 135 f2.5, 200 f3.5, 24mm 2.5, 28mm 2.5 x8,
FD 500mm mirror lens |
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pat donnelly

Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Posts: 669 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:56 am Post subject: |
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For the NEX, I would say try the Fujian. If it pleases then keep but selling it will be easy, as m4/3 would know and other NEX users might like the effects evident on exemplars posted with the advert?
I am a great advocate of the fact that individual lenses differ greatly in some cases where QC is poor, as in China and DDR and USSR. Some offer clearly superior results even probably as to coverage although a mm is small in m4/3 and even APS sensors that can make a difference! So buy two or three at different times!
Always choose a vendor who has many sales over a newer one even if the newer one is cheaper. Another poster and I were customers of Cowy7 who like too many, absconded with $$$ one Xmas! _________________ ---------------------------------
EP-1, E-410, E-300, D100, D1,
C-Mt: 25mm 1.9, 75mm 1.4, 75mm 1.3, 75mm 1.9, Ultra wides, one inch sensor, 20+ c-mount zooms
OM 350mm f2.8, Nikkor 180 f2.8, Exa 180 f2.8,
Tamrons: 90mm f2.5, 500mm f8 x3, 135 f2.5, 200 f3.5, 24mm 2.5, 28mm 2.5 x8,
FD 500mm mirror lens |
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iangreenhalgh1


Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 9100
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Where can these Fujian C-mount lenses be purchased? _________________ 'The question I would really consider (especially if an amateur and on a budget) is whether or not anyone (including yourself, of course) can tell the difference in any situation for which you will use the lens...and if they can, why are they burying their noses in your prints hard enough to tell the difference instead of responding to the prints emotionally and thinking about what they might mean?' - 2F/2F on apug.org
Digital: Sony NEX-3, Samsung NX100, Canon EOS 450d
35mm SLR: Konica FT-1, Konica FC-1, Konica Autoreflex T, Carena SRH760, Exakta RTL1000, Canon EOS 10qd
35mm VF: Olympus Stylus, Konica C35, Konica A4, Konica MG, Konica MT-9, Ricoh FF-9, Ricoh AF-80
35mm RF: Zorki 6, Kiev II, Kiev IV, Contax IIIa, CZJ Werra III,
Medium format: Franka Rolfix, Mess Ikonta 524/16, Voigtlander Bessa with Skopar 3.5/105, Voigtlander Bessa with Voigtar 3.5/105, Kiev 6C, Century Graphic 23, Ensign Selfix 820, Kershaw 450
MF lenses: Schneider Angulon 6.5/68, Componon-S 5.6/100, C-Claron 4.5/135, Xenar 3.5/105, Mamiya C 2.8/45, Mamiya 2.8/80, CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Biometar 2.8/80, Zodiac 3.5/30, Tominon 4.5/135, Pullin Pulnar 2.8/100
Large Format: Ernemann HEAG Series VII version II 9x12 with Kodak Anastigmat 6.3/170
Konica Hexanons 4/21, 2.8/24, 3.5/28, 2.8/35, 1.8/40, 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 1.8/50, 3.2/135, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 4.5/300, 3.5-4.5/35-70, 4-4.6/28-135, 3.5/35-70, UC 3.5/45-100, 4/70-150, 4/65-135, UC 4/80-200. Hexars 3.5/28, 3.5/135, Konishiroku 2.8/35
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.8/35, Skoparex 3.4/35, Tessar 2.8/50, Sonnar 1.5/50, Biotar 2/58, Pancolar 1.8/50, Cardinar 4/100, Zeiss-Opton Biogon 2.8/35
Meyer/Pentacons 2.8/28, Primagon 4.5/35, Trioplan 2.9/50, 1.8/50, 2.4/50, Primotar 3.5/50, Primotar 3.5/135
Topcon RE Auto Topcors 1.8/58, 3.5/135, 5.6/200
Russians: OKC1-18-1 2.8/18, OKC1-28-1 2.8/28, Jupiter-12 2.8/35, Jupiter-8 2/50, Industar-50 3.5/50, Industar-26M 2.8/50, Industar-22 3.5/50, Zenitar M2S 2/50, Helios-44-2, Jupiter-9 2/85, Jupiter-11 4/135, Tair-3C 4.5/300
Tokina 3.5/17, Nikon Auto Nikkor-N 2.8/24, Nikon Micro-Nikkor-P 3.5/55, Ross Xpress 3.5/4in, Ross Xpress 4/5in, Ross Xpress 4.5/8.5in, Wollensak APO-Raptar 10/541
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Nordentro


Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 1895 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: | | Where can these Fujian C-mount lenses be purchased? |
I bought mine on Ebay
This lens has very soft edges, but can be useful as a special effect lens wide open. Edge sharpness improves when stopped down. _________________ "If you only shoot manual, why didn't you buy a manual lens from the start?!?" | Lens collection | Manuellfokus.no |
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Anacondo


Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 66 Location: Spain
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I just received mine from eBay. The aperture ring is almost stuck, and it won't open all the way to f/1.7 (you can see a hint of the blades). It takes a decent amount of force to close it to f/16, and then it even goes past that! I got mine past f/16 and the blades crushed into each other, not a pretty sight The focus ring is smoother, but nothing as I expected (although it seems to be getting smoother the more I play with it).
Did you find your copies to be similar? I'm particularly worried about the aperture ring... |
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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 16485 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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No. My copy has a smooth focus ring and a very smooth aperture, sometimes even too smooth, so that you change it accidentally. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause!
Carsten, Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
Sets:
Leica M8 - Voigtländer Heliar 4.5/15 & Ultron 2/28 & Ultron 1.7/35 & Heliar 2.5/75, Leica Summitar 2/50 & Elmar 4/90, Jupiter-3, Jupiter-8,
Sony NEX-7 / NEX-3 - Tamron 2.5/24, Pentax-110 2.8 (18/24/50/70), Fujian CCTV 1.7/35, Hexanon 1.8/40 & 1.4/57, Schneider-Kreuznach Tele-Xenar 3.8/75, Zuiko 2.8/100, Leica Hektor 4.5/135, Sony SEL 2.8/16 & 18-55 OSS & 55-210 OSS, Sigma EX 2.8/19 & 2.8/30
Canon EOS 5D - Zenitar 2.8/16, Rokkor 2/28, Summicron-R 2.0/50, Nikkor-SC 1.2/55, Nikkor 1.8/85, Tamron 2.5/135, Elmar 4/180, Tamron 8/500,
Tamron 2.8-3.8/35-80, Sigma EX 15-30, Sigma 1.8/24, Canon EF 1.8/50, Tokina AT-X Pro 24-200 (EOS), Sigma 70-300
Canon EOS 300D - Steinheil 2.8/35, Zuiko 1.4/50, Helios-44 2/58, Jupiter-9 2/85, Vivitar S1 2.3/135
Nikon D1 & Fuji S2 Pro - Tamron 2.5/28, MIR 2/35, Jupiter-37 3.5/135, Soligor 3.5/70-220, Tamron 18-200
Nikon D3100 - Nikkor AF-S 18-55VR, AF-S 18-70, AF-S 55-200
Ricoh KR10x - Pentax-M 1.7/50, Rikenon 3.4-4.5/35-70
Nikon F - Nikkor 2.8/24, Nikkor-SC 1.4/50 a.s.a.
Asahi Spotmatic SPII: CZJ Flek 4/20, Tamron 3.5/35-70, Industar 3.5/5cm, Mamiya 1.8/55
EXA Varex - CZJ Biogon 2/58
Leica IIIa syn & Zorki-4 - (LTM lenses)
Leica C2, Minox 35 GL,Yashica Electro 35 GS, Kodak Retina Ia, Agfa Super Silette, Vivitar Ultra Wide & Slim, Adox Golf 66 and some others...
Sigma DP1s, Leica Digilux 2, Lumix LC-5 & FX37, Lumix FZ20, Canon G2, Sony Mavica 300, Fuji 4800Z + 4900Z, Oly C3030, Pentax Optio S, Nikon CP950, Sony V1 & F505 a.s.m.
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Anacondo


Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 66 Location: Spain
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I got a lemon, then  |
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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 16485 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Anacondo wrote: | I guess I got a lemon, then  |
It looks like it, I'm afraid.  _________________ Personal forum activity on pause!
Carsten, Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
Sets:
Leica M8 - Voigtländer Heliar 4.5/15 & Ultron 2/28 & Ultron 1.7/35 & Heliar 2.5/75, Leica Summitar 2/50 & Elmar 4/90, Jupiter-3, Jupiter-8,
Sony NEX-7 / NEX-3 - Tamron 2.5/24, Pentax-110 2.8 (18/24/50/70), Fujian CCTV 1.7/35, Hexanon 1.8/40 & 1.4/57, Schneider-Kreuznach Tele-Xenar 3.8/75, Zuiko 2.8/100, Leica Hektor 4.5/135, Sony SEL 2.8/16 & 18-55 OSS & 55-210 OSS, Sigma EX 2.8/19 & 2.8/30
Canon EOS 5D - Zenitar 2.8/16, Rokkor 2/28, Summicron-R 2.0/50, Nikkor-SC 1.2/55, Nikkor 1.8/85, Tamron 2.5/135, Elmar 4/180, Tamron 8/500,
Tamron 2.8-3.8/35-80, Sigma EX 15-30, Sigma 1.8/24, Canon EF 1.8/50, Tokina AT-X Pro 24-200 (EOS), Sigma 70-300
Canon EOS 300D - Steinheil 2.8/35, Zuiko 1.4/50, Helios-44 2/58, Jupiter-9 2/85, Vivitar S1 2.3/135
Nikon D1 & Fuji S2 Pro - Tamron 2.5/28, MIR 2/35, Jupiter-37 3.5/135, Soligor 3.5/70-220, Tamron 18-200
Nikon D3100 - Nikkor AF-S 18-55VR, AF-S 18-70, AF-S 55-200
Ricoh KR10x - Pentax-M 1.7/50, Rikenon 3.4-4.5/35-70
Nikon F - Nikkor 2.8/24, Nikkor-SC 1.4/50 a.s.a.
Asahi Spotmatic SPII: CZJ Flek 4/20, Tamron 3.5/35-70, Industar 3.5/5cm, Mamiya 1.8/55
EXA Varex - CZJ Biogon 2/58
Leica IIIa syn & Zorki-4 - (LTM lenses)
Leica C2, Minox 35 GL,Yashica Electro 35 GS, Kodak Retina Ia, Agfa Super Silette, Vivitar Ultra Wide & Slim, Adox Golf 66 and some others...
Sigma DP1s, Leica Digilux 2, Lumix LC-5 & FX37, Lumix FZ20, Canon G2, Sony Mavica 300, Fuji 4800Z + 4900Z, Oly C3030, Pentax Optio S, Nikon CP950, Sony V1 & F505 a.s.m.
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