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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: fastest Lens on Earth by Zeiss on Auction Reply with quote

kds315* wrote:
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Carl Zeiss Planar 0.7/50mm



Thanks for sharing. Would love to take her for a test drive.


K.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if it is good practice to repeat old April Fool's jokes - especially if it is one's own. But here it is anyways:

http://forum.mflenses.com/anyone-know-this-lens-t15760.html


PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: fastest Lens on Earth by Zeiss on Auction Reply with quote

thePiRaTE!! wrote:
kds315* wrote:
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Carl Zeiss Planar 0.7/50mm




Impressive optical diagram:
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Schuster_0,75_litografia_uv/00_pag.htm


PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: fastest Lens on Earth by Zeiss on Auction Reply with quote

calvin83 wrote:
thePiRaTE!! wrote:
kds315* wrote:
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Carl Zeiss Planar 0.7/50mm




Impressive optical diagram:
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Schuster_0,75_litografia_uv/00_pag.htm


Impressive optical diagram, but it's not the lens used by Kubrick. It should be this one: http://pindelski.org/Photography/2009/02/12/barry-lyndon/


PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: fastest Lens on Earth by Zeiss on Auction Reply with quote

Spotmatic wrote:
calvin83 wrote:
thePiRaTE!! wrote:
kds315* wrote:
...
Carl Zeiss Planar 0.7/50mm




Impressive optical diagram:
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Schuster_0,75_litografia_uv/00_pag.htm


Impressive optical diagram, but it's not the lens used by Kubrick. It should be this one: http://pindelski.org/Photography/2009/02/12/barry-lyndon/

Yes. Both are impresive. Wink


PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: fastest Lens on Earth by Zeiss on Auction Reply with quote

Spotmatic wrote:

Impressive optical diagram, but it's not the lens used by Kubrick. It should be this one: http://pindelski.org/Photography/2009/02/12/barry-lyndon/


It is very unfortunate that that site did steal Marco Cavina's graphic work without even crediting him.
Marco's original page and diagrams here:
http://www.marcocavina.com/omaggio_a_kubrick.htm

EDIT: I have informed Marco.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean "that" site not "this" .. Confused


PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I corrected.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: fastest Lens on Earth by Zeiss on Auction Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Spotmatic wrote:

Impressive optical diagram, but it's not the lens used by Kubrick. It should be this one: http://pindelski.org/Photography/2009/02/12/barry-lyndon/


It is very unfortunate that that site did steal Marco Cavina's graphic work without even crediting him.
Marco's original page and diagrams here:
http://www.marcocavina.com/omaggio_a_kubrick.htm

EDIT: I have informed Marco.
_


And I placed a harsh comment on his (not well designed) site!


PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spotmatic wrote:
It even does not have a working optical scheme.

Working? Who cares if it WORKS?!?!? Bragging rights are good enough!

Looking at this, and other bulbous lenses, reminds me of this article [ http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2010/11/the-schott-heard-around-the-world ] and this 'lens':



Quote:
"Photographers... didn’t really have a lens, back in the 1860s, that would let them shoot a wide-angle scenic image. Thomas Sutton, an English photographer, noticed the wide angle of view he saw when looking through one of those water filled snowglobes ... and designed a lens that consisted of a water filled globe."

It was slow and required a globular frame for film, so it didn't really succeed. But I makes me wonder: Could it be kludged? For those who can't afford an enlarger condenser lens, why not just get a globe fishbowl and half-fill it with optical resin, like that windshield-repair resin we can use to fix lens scratches and cracks? Put that on a suitable body and mount, and VOILA!


PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm . . . or maybe go to a magic shop and see how optically correct their crystal balls are?


PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cooltouch wrote:
Hmmm . . . or maybe go to a magic shop and see how optically correct their crystal balls are?

Oh, so it's IMAGE QUALITY you want, is it? I'm sorry, that costs more.

I am reminded of a line, I think it was from an old DOONESBURY comic, where an autobiographical ghostwriter is naming his fee, and says that literary quality would cost more. "Literary quality?" asked the subject of the autobiography. "Yeah," said the ghostwriter, "adjectives, adverbs, stuff like that." I guess pronouns are as cheap as fish bowls.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RioRico wrote:

.... reminds me of this article [ http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2010/11/the-schott-heard-around-the-world ] ...


Thanks for the link.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RioRico wrote:
cooltouch wrote:
Hmmm . . . or maybe go to a magic shop and see how optically correct their crystal balls are?

Oh, so it's IMAGE QUALITY you want, is it? I'm sorry, that costs more.

I am reminded of a line, I think it was from an old DOONESBURY comic, where an autobiographical ghostwriter is naming his fee, and says that literary quality would cost more. "Literary quality?" asked the subject of the autobiography. "Yeah," said the ghostwriter, "adjectives, adverbs, stuff like that." I guess pronouns are as cheap as fish bowls.


Yep, and they're an unappreciated deal when you think about it. One pronoun can replace an entire noun phrase! Good economy.

You know, thanks to this thread, next time I see a glass sphere, I'll bet you can guess what I'll be doing with it. Cool


PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kansalliskala wrote:
I'm not sure if it is good practice to repeat old April Fool's jokes - especially if it is one's own. But here it is anyways:

http://forum.mflenses.com/anyone-know-this-lens-t15760.html

I loved that thread!!


PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marco Cavina informed me that he has updated his Kubrick Planar f/0.7 page with never before published Erhard Glatzel's original optical schemes and MTF that he has recently received :
http://www.marcocavina.com/omaggio_a_kubrick.htm
Marco also added a very interesting photo of the huge IBM computer that Glatzel used for the computation of this lens.

(note: this update of year 2011 may not appear to you if you visited the page recently and have an old version of the page cached; if you don't see it, press Ctrl+F5 and the cached page will be updated).


PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really enjoyed all the pics from the movie. I haven't seen it since it was in theaters back in -- what, 1976? Brings back some memories. I do recall marvelling over the natural light work in the movie, but hadn't a clue until this thread that it was all made possible by such a special lens. The very last photo is the scene I remember the best -- the musical ensemble playing by candlelight. Must be the musician in me, I guess.

Now, as for that IBM 'puter, I just googled the specs on it. It had an address space of 32k "words", but the word length was 36 bits, so compared to a modern byte, a word was 4.5 times as long. So if my figurin' is correct, this $2.9M machine (in late 1950s dollars, no less) had the equivalent address space of 144 kilobytes. Hoodawgies.


PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

auction is on may 28th, the list of items is published, catalog can be ordered: http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=215261


PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will attend the auction and the "battle". Marco has gotten some interesting papers indeed (I have them) and as usual has turned that into a very fine documentation (just too bad it is all in Italian language...)


PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gigantar sold yesterday May 28, 2011 for EUR60.000 and the "Kubrick" Planar 0.7/50mm for EUR90.000


PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked that is really many banknotes...