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Early morning light, Viv 135/2.8 (Komine)
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Early morning light, Viv 135/2.8 (Komine) Reply with quote
These were taken at 6:30am. Caught the cat on the front porch and used
one of the two Viv 135/2.8 lenses. Both lenses were throw-ins on $25
cameras (one came with a 2x converter!). In our sport it is all about the
light, and this early morning light is something special. Taken at f5 or
f5.2 (1-2 clicks before f5.6).







Bill

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wonderful colors, Bill. This cat is a perfect model.

Michael


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What a warm colours and what a nice model!


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The first shot is glorious!

he/she looks like Napoleon looking at his troops before the battle of Marengo!


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm pretty happy the way these turned out, with that golden light you
get, early morning. Him is a "he". Wink

Bill


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Actually, this is very close to the real thing I saw this morning. This is
just converted from RAW to JPEG, resized/sharpened in Irfanview and
not using PSE 4.0, that seems to have a mind of its own as to how the colors should look.





Better, or not? I think I like the real thing better, even if it isn't as flashy.

Bill

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Real one is lot better, try acdsee 9.0 auto exposure function.


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I found how to do it. I convert to JPEG in Irfanview and open in PSE 4
and the colors, exposure, stays the same. I was opening the RAW in
PSE 4 first, is where I went wrong.

Attila, is this acdsee 9.0 a free download or some program you buy?

I've cropped and resized them using the above method.

Bill


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.acdsee.com/ Not free. Download and take a look on trial first, if you like it send me a private message.


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
http://www.acdsee.com/ Not free. Download and take a look on trial first, if you like it send me a private message.


OK, I'll try it. But I like the method I just used. Things are not artificially
illuminated that weren't there in real life, this is much better! And the
colors/lighting are very real...

Bill


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, right. I like both.


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bill your camera model should be supported by Rawshooter Essential. Try it, it's free. Great program.


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Bill your camera model should be supported by Rawshooter Essential. Try it, it's free. Great program.


I downloaded Rawshooter Essentials 2006. Pretty cool, it recognized
that my RAW files are from an Oly E-300, but I'm not sure what all
this is going to do for me...


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
katastrofo wrote:

I downloaded Rawshooter Essentials 2006. Pretty cool, it recognized
that my RAW files are from an Oly E-300, but I'm not sure what all
this is going to do for me...


Spend a little time with it, it can do 1000 more than the software you are currently using, which does not take advantage of the RAW features.

And if you have questions, just ask. I know the program like my pockets.


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Okey dokey, I'll give it a go. Smile

Bill


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK, got 2 images worked up. I think I like this a lot! Very Happy





Orio, whaddaya think?

Bill

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice!

And gorgeous cat!!
Melissa has fallen in love with him. Now she is trying to forget by sleeping on my router.


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio,
Want to thank you about the RAWshooter tip! Yep, it does a lot more
for the image than PSE 4. I like how it brightened the image to what
I saw originally without adding stuff that wasn't there before. The
sharpening tool is cool, too. I've ruined images where I got greedy
with the sharpening Wink

Hope Melissa doesn't get a shock sleeping on the router... Shocked

Bill


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
katastrofo wrote:
Orio,
Want to thank you about the RAWshooter tip! Yep, it does a lot more
for the image than PSE 4. I like how it brightened the image to what
I saw originally without adding stuff that wasn't there before. The
sharpening tool is cool, too. I've ruined images where I got greedy
with the sharpening Wink


You're welcome!
The key to the most successful use of the program is the use of the exposure compensation. Set it to get the most of the histogram spectrum in the most useful position. This usually means to save most of the highlights. The highlights that are clipped are signaled by the program by activating the danger icon in the bottom. You don't have to save all the highlights if this means to darken the image too much, you can leave a few portion clipped and then recover them via the highlight contrast control.
Once you have set the highlights best, time to set the shadows, chances are that if you have saved most highlights, the shadow areas may be too dark... you don't have to raise exposure again to fix this, use the Fill Light command instead... but don't get too far with it else it will look unreal... for me a max. value of 15 is the workable limit.
If after adjusting the fill light your shadows seem too weak, go to the curves and move the black point a little to the right (how much depends on the histogram), or alternatively, give a little push to the shadow contrast command.
As for saturation, I almost never use the normal saturation. Usually a few steps (2 or 3) of Vibrance control are enough. But I have also to say that with the manual prime lenses, I rarely need to touch saturation, contrary to what used to happen with the Af lenses or with the zoom lenses.

katastrofo wrote:

Hope Melissa doesn't get a shock, sleeping on the router... Shocked
Bill


Oh she loves there. She sleeps there every day. She follows me wherever I go. If I work at the puter, she goes there. If I sleep on the bed, or on the couch, she follows me. They say that cats aren't good company like dogs, but I don't think it's true.


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio, I'm thinking this post of yours should be a sticky.

My cat is the same way. Maybe it has something to do with the owners,
too. I spoil my cat, and he knows it! Laughing

Bill


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This picture is a good example of what this software can do:

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8394/mg2353fs7.jpg

With Rawshooter I could recover the volume of the puffy clouds and the color of the sky, without killing the rest of the image. With the Canon software it was either to keep the image and kill the sky, or keep the sky and kill the image.

btw this is part of the next part of the Bardi series.

Quote:
My cat is the same way. Maybe it has something to do with the owners,
too. I spoil my cat, and he knows it! Laughing


I rather think that my cat owns me, and she just wants to always keep an eye on her property! Laughing


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Every animal can be a perfect company if owner love it, not just keep it. My guinea pig follow me like a cat or a dog and make beautiful sounds if I touch him. Most of the people keep them in small terrarium, sure if they keep them in prison they not honor as if keep them more free. My bird has behavior completely like a human kid from every aspects both negative and positive.


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Every animal can be a perfect company if owner love it, not just keep it. My guinea pig follow me like a cat or a dog and make beautiful sounds if I touch him. Most of the people keep them in small terrarium, sure if they keep them in prison they not honor as if keep them more free. My bird has behavior completely like a human kid from every aspects both negative and positive.


I agree, completely.

Bill


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio, the picture in the link...is that stone wheel from the Etruscan era?

Bill


PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
katastrofo wrote:
Orio, the picture in the link...is that stone wheel from the Etruscan era?
Bill


Little is known of the time when the castle was first built.
( some views here http://www.valtaro.it/bardi1.htm )
The first mention of the castle is from year 869 a.C. so we know that it was already in place at that time. Which makes of it one of the oldest remaining medieaval castles in Italy.
Of course it was modified over the times and the subsequent owners, so the current aspect may not be the original.

As for the stones, one should ask the builders, LOL they may have been taken from other places (they used to do that), but it's unlikely that they were Etruscan stones, for several reasons: one is that the Etruscan era is much older (their first writings date to 7 centuries b.C.), another is that the Etruscan territtory was for most part placed south of the Apennines, in today's Toscana, Umbria and Lazio. At the times of the Etruscans, Northern Italy was inhabited by the Celts.
Finally, Etruscan did build their houses in a very particular way, using volcanic stones, that are softer and more sculptable.
So I would say that the answer should be "no".
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