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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Athens
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject: Poor Man's View Camera DIY (d) SLR to View Camera Conversion |
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I cannot find the topic where I started to write about it , so I started a new one with some fotos with the ( almost ) final shape of my beloved " Geometry " . A selfmade (d)SLR to View Camera Conversion . I would appreciate any coments as I intend to produce it in small series .

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ChromaticAberration


Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 759 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry but I missed the purpose of the contraption. Tilf-shifting? _________________ flickr deviantArt
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Industar 50-2 50mm /3.5 Jupiter-37A 135mm /3.5 Helios 44-2 58mm /2.0 Pentacon 'Bokeh Monster' 135mm /2.8 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm /3.5 Tamron SP 35-80mm /2.8-3.8 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50mm /1.4 Jupiter-9 85mm /2 Auto Takumar 105mm /2.8 Nikon 55mm /1.2 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135mm /2.5
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greg


Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Posts: 683
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Very nice looking DIY (way over my simple abilities) project. Congratulations on what appears to be a well thought out and finished project. |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Athens
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the comments fellows .
Yes , chromatic aberration , it is a tilt / shift device , but as a view camera it can be fine-tuned , one step at a time without missing the previus adjustments . For example if you use a tube-type device you probably have to reframe and refocus after each tilt or swing movement . With "Geometry" you just don't have to . Of course if you tilt for roughly put out of focus the " non interesting areas " , you dont need such precise adjustment , but if you tilt to have EVERYTHING in focus , it is necessary . Furthermore " Geometry " is a macro bellows WITH micro focusing rail incorporated and gives the possibility to focus either moving the front standard ( lens ) or the back ( camera body ) . Also it mounts any type of lens , and any type of camera ( and may be in the future digi back ), it can copy slides , with a frame holder mounted on , and easily accept any DIY conversion by the owner .
This is a macro foto shot with the previous version of the "Geometry" , a Pentax K10d and a Volna 3 MC 2,8/80 P6 mount lens . And this is the setting used
By the way greg , I havent used a mirrorless yet , but if manual focusing is easy on the screen , mirrorlesses have the advantage ( shorter register distance ) to be able to work on 35 mm film lenses . SLR's cannot work tilt-shift but with Medium Format lenses and wides are a pain espessially with APS-C in which case a 45 mm is rather a short tele . |
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ChromaticAberration


Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 759 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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The device does look nice, especially the machining work with holes for weight savings I suppose.
Some comments:
- The cloth does take some sophistication out of it I must confess;
- The color of the metal finishing may be too reflective and get in the way of the subject if the light hits it right? I guess a flat-black paint finish like hood manufacturers use on the inside would totally prevent that but also more prone to scratches and getting uglier with usage.
There is one "drawback" I guess, it doesn't solve the problem of the lens that is used, I mean, you still need a lens that covers more than your sensor was made for or you'll get unusable vignetting.
Go for it, I like it, and would enjoy using it but I suppose I won't be able to afford it, specially with shipping costs involved! _________________ flickr deviantArt
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Industar 50-2 50mm /3.5 Jupiter-37A 135mm /3.5 Helios 44-2 58mm /2.0 Pentacon 'Bokeh Monster' 135mm /2.8 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm /3.5 Tamron SP 35-80mm /2.8-3.8 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50mm /1.4 Jupiter-9 85mm /2 Auto Takumar 105mm /2.8 Nikon 55mm /1.2 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135mm /2.5
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fuzzywuzzy


Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 851 Location: Down East, Canada, eh?
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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That looks awesome.
You're obviously a handy guy, here's a link on folding your own bellows that might be of interest:
http://www.diyphotography.net/freelens-by-building-your-own-bellows _________________ I welcome C&C, editing my pics and reposting them on the forum is fine.
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my_photography

Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2539 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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The result seems promising. An interesting project you have going there.
A question on the black cloth - its purpose is to hold the lens or just to block lights from getting in the sensor? _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna München Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
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walter g


Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2053 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Looks interesting.
Here is your original thread.
http://forum.mflenses.com/home-made-slr-to-view-camera-conversion-t36788.html _________________
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Minolta X370-N,Konica C35,Canon EOS 10D,Panasonic G1
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Athens
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the replies . I'll try to answer some of the questions .
Chromatic Aberration , you are right , the cloth is awful , but the effort until now was on the brackets . The final version will be made of Black Asetal , a plastic material that is stiff , light , and absorbs microvibrations for better sharpness , and scratches don't show on it . There is the drawback of the one-size 'bigger' lens as on all tilt/shift devices , except for the mirrorless cameras that can use 35mm film lenses . I'll try to keep the cost under 500 euro for the full version with two brackets and three movements on the rail .
fuzzy wuzzy A real bellows is useless in such small extension because the cloth layers occupy space between the camera and the lens , and obstacle the movements . A bag bellows is used instead even on 6000$ view cameras when it comes to small focals . Anyway thanks for the interest .
My_photography You quessed right . It just keeps light and dust away from the sensor .
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martinsmith99


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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Athens
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Almost two and a half years of intensive effort brought me to a good point . It's lightweight ( 1,7 kg ) , effective ( 15mm shift all directions for each standard and tilt is limited only by the lens covering capacity) , relatively easy to handle , and not ugly for my taste .
This is the final shape of 'Geometry the poor man's View Camera' .
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ManuallyYours

Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 33 Location: Lyon, FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Impressive devices. I can see that some users still do by themselves, what they wish, and don't fall in the easy way of buying. Congrats ! _________________ NIKON d300s+MB-D10 |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Athens
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Manualy Yours |
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Olivier


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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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That's impressive !
Very nice result, clean and beautiful.
Can't wait to see some sample shots taken with this great combo !
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