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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



The lovely chinon 55mm f 1.7 with learther grips (tomioko) design
Very cheap but renders impressionistic pics like Monet the newer Pentax mount version is also as interesting


The newer version below has more glow


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm used wide open at 35mm produces unique bokeh.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

martinsmith99 wrote:
Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm used wide open at 35mm produces unique bokeh.


Any dislike this type of bokeh too, but I like this unique property of this lens.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diaplan / Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 would be my first reccomendation, too:



Much less easy too handle is the Sigma YS 135mm/2,8 lens - it could create Trioplan like bokeh too after a modification - but has the ability to make spherical under corrected bokeh as well. Much like the Nikon DC Nikkor lenses - bokeh control !





A lens with apodisation filter would be interessting to - such a smooth bokeh is very special. But sometimes it is distracting / unnatural.
There is only the Sony/Minolta 135mm/2.8 [4.5] STF lens. As an alternative one can build a DIY apodization lens.



The Vivitar 35mm f/1.9 seem to produce someting like the now expensive 28/1.9 lens.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canon Serenar 85mm:





Cooke kinic 1 inch:





PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.
Last bokeh is awesome Shocked


or tilt (on nex)


PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call me traditional, but I prefer my "artistic" lenses not to intrude into the image any more than is necessary. So I still prefer just good old fast lenses. Like 50/1.4s and /1.2s and 85/1.4s and /1.2s. And I can get by with most of the rest I own with some proper positioning.

Taken with my EOS XS (1000D), Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 SSC Aspherical @ f/1.2, with EOS-FD adapter, corrective element removed.


Often similar soft bokeh can be achieved with slower lenses by positioning the subject properly with respect to its background:

EOS XS, Canon FD 400mm f/4.5 @ f/4.5, FD-EOS adapter w/element removed:


Canon F-1, Tamron SP 60-300 f/3.8-5.4 @ ~ 5.4, Fujichrome Provia 100, duped with my XS and dupe rig:


PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a Holga camera. It's the most fun and you will get beautiful images, (if they are in focus).

There is also a Holga lens for Nikon mount. I had one but wasn't happy with it. The Holga is a medium format camera and there the 60mm is a wide angle, while on FX or even DX it's quite long. It's also not sharp at all.

The camera is 30$ without flash and 50$ with flash, brand new.


PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Michael - Cooltouch on this, I like my bokeh smooooooooth. And for me it doesn't get much better that this from the Rollei Planar 50 1.8.


Machinery by Mudplugga, on Flickr

There's been a discussion on the Pentax Forums about the legendary Helios 44M swirly bokeh, and neither of mine seem to do the swirly thing to any great degree, there's some, but very very little. But I have a Chinon Auto Reflex 28 2.8 that swirls like crazy, so much that I rarely use it.


In a world of swirls. by Mudplugga, on Flickr


PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me one of very interesting and artistic bokeh is definitely Carl Zeiss Biometar 80 2.8 for P6. This lens is famoust my strange swirl bokeh. Goole it you will find more on this lens, but is very sharp and this effect is useful in photography as in video.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 4/85 SF fujinon lens in M42 mount. With it's internal filter. Widest apertures, the softrr effect. From f/85 a normal and sharp 85 mm lens.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy wrote:

There's been a discussion on the Pentax Forums about the legendary Helios 44M swirly bokeh, and neither of mine seem to do the swirly thing to any great degree, there's some, but very very little.


Huh, I have a Helios 44M and I guess mine is like yours -- I don't recall any swirl effect with mine either. Just as well, I've never cared much for that effect anyway.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In C-mount , there's also the Cooke Kinic 25mm f1.5 with a heavy swirling bokeh



PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZoneV wrote:
Diaplan / Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 would be my first reccomendation, too:





I remember You said elsewhere that 135mm Diaplan produces similar bokeh. Did You have a chance to try it out, any example pictures?


PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might experiment with different examples of Meyer Domiplan 2.8/50mm. I've seen some cranky specimens.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Helios-40 1.5/85

http://forum.mflenses.com/helios-40-85mm-f1-5-rose-variations-t44955,highlight,%2Bhelios+%2B40.html

http://forum.mflenses.com/helios-40-autumn-paintings-t33859,highlight,%2Bhelios+%2B40.html

Helios-40


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fujian 35mm F1.7 (C-Mount; NEX and MFT only) - cheap!



Helios 44-2 Rear Element only



Cyclop 85/1.5 and Helios 40-2 85/1.5





PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esox lucius wrote:
Meyer-Optik Görlitz Trioplan 2.8/100. I'm pretty sure this lens inspired Apple's Arabesque screen saver Laughing (Just don't buy it if you have hidden epilepsia.)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20110320/6069863999/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/50093837@N05/4987188394/


Here's more, don't know if the artist is a member of this forum:
http://camerajunky.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/meyer-optik-gorlitz-trioplan-100mm-f2-8/