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Farside
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 Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Agfa Record II and Braun Paxina |
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Farside wrote:
Ignore the shonky bits of cardboard - just what was available at the time for a quick and dirty shot.
The Record II has an Apotar 4.5/105 in a Prontor-S shutter. Speeds B and 1sec - 1/250. Middling quality lens as far as I know, not fantastic. It's very clean though and I sincerely hope it's not light leaky - the bellows look very fresh. In fact, the whole camera looks like it just came out of the dealer's shop last week.
The item on top is a Pullin rangefinder - pure fluke I found one of these for peanuts and it's supposed to be one of the best.
The Paxina has a Beyreuth Praxar 3.5/75 in a Pronto shutter; speeds B and 1/25 - 1/200. Not that I expect great things from this - it's really a handycam for MF snapshots and I was just tickled with the tube design. Again, it's very clean, but does show signs of use.
Of the two, the Agfa is much more solid feeling and I think I'm going to enjoy using it.
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Nesster wrote:
Those are in good looking shape. It would be fun to shoot with them... I look forward to hearing / seeing your experience. I've been tempted by one or another of those extending tube cameras, they are such gizmos.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice ones! Left one looks E.T. 
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Jesito
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Congrats, nice cameras!!.
The Record II is very similar to the Isolette, so check carefully the bellows before dropping a roll in...
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Farside
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Well, bellows aside, the Record is suffering the same disease as many Isolettes - frozen focus ring caused by Agfa's green grease going solid. Slightly annoying, but fixable.
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
| Farside wrote: |
| Well, bellows aside, the Record is suffering the same disease as many Isolettes - frozen focus ring caused by Agfa's green grease going solid. Slightly annoying, but fixable. |
Really?. I'd like to know how... 
My Isolette's focus ring is barely moveable without a clamp 
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Farside
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
| Jesito wrote: |
| Farside wrote: |
| Well, bellows aside, the Record is suffering the same disease as many Isolettes - frozen focus ring caused by Agfa's green grease going solid. Slightly annoying, but fixable. |
Really?. I'd like to know how...
My Isolette's focus ring is barely moveable without a clamp
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"Isolette frozen focus" brings up many instances. The cure is always the same - strip and clean out the green muck.
http://tinyurl.com/6k4akz
Mine has three tiny screws to slacken first before I can remove the front ring and then get the lens cell out - of course, one of the screws is blocked by the fold-down flap. 
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Farside
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Farside wrote:
Now I've just found the bellow on the Record II are pin-holed in a couple of places. I discovered this by the flashlight bulb inside the bellows trick.
Damn, damn, damn.
Still, it's easily cured with some black rubber glue.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
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| Now I've just found the bellow on the Record II are pin-holed in a couple of places. |
All non-leather Agfa bellows are pin-holed, unless they have been repaired or replaced. I've never encountered an exception to that rule...
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Farside
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Yep, it seems to be the norm and it's surprising it's lasted 50 years as it is. I'll do a repair and shoot a roll or two to see what the lens quality is like and then might spend some money on getting a decent set of bellows on it. I wouldn't be surprised if the camera was put aside because of the light leaks and the resulting decades in a drawer caused the lens seizure.
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