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Farside


Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 1864 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Agfa Record II and Braun Paxina |
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Ignore the shonky bits of cardboard - just what was available at the time for a quick and dirty shot.
The Record II has an Apotar 4.5/105 in a Prontor-S shutter. Speeds B and 1sec - 1/250. Middling quality lens as far as I know, not fantastic. It's very clean though and I sincerely hope it's not light leaky - the bellows look very fresh. In fact, the whole camera looks like it just came out of the dealer's shop last week.
The item on top is a Pullin rangefinder - pure fluke I found one of these for peanuts and it's supposed to be one of the best.
The Paxina has a Beyreuth Praxar 3.5/75 in a Pronto shutter; speeds B and 1/25 - 1/200. Not that I expect great things from this - it's really a handycam for MF snapshots and I was just tickled with the tube design. Again, it's very clean, but does show signs of use.
Of the two, the Agfa is much more solid feeling and I think I'm going to enjoy using it. _________________ Dave
The Lenses of Farside
"The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and
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Nesster


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Attila


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16065 Location: Budapest,Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Nice ones! Left one looks E.T.  _________________
Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
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Jesito


Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 2366 Location: Sitges, (Spain)
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats, nice cameras!!.
The Record II is very similar to the Isolette, so check carefully the bellows before dropping a roll in...
Jes. _________________ Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 18-200, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro (Adaptall)
Fixed CZJ Planar 50mm 1.7, Helios 44-2, Cosinon 28mm, CZJ Sonnar 135, Industar-61, Jupiter-9, Industar-50, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Weltblick 135mm
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Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Olympus 35RC, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret LR, Welta Welti-I, Argus C4, Kodak Signette 25, Zorki-4, Bessa-R
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Farside


Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 1864 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Well, bellows aside, the Record is suffering the same disease as many Isolettes - frozen focus ring caused by Agfa's green grease going solid. Slightly annoying, but fixable. _________________ Dave
The Lenses of Farside
"The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and
prosperity is no longer socialism. It is, instead, the ambitious,
arrogant, unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism."
-- Czech President Vaclav Klaus |
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Jesito


Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 2366 Location: Sitges, (Spain)
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Farside wrote: | | Well, bellows aside, the Record is suffering the same disease as many Isolettes - frozen focus ring caused by Agfa's green grease going solid. Slightly annoying, but fixable. |
Really?. I'd like to know how...
My Isolette's focus ring is barely moveable without a clamp
Jes. _________________ Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 18-200, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro (Adaptall)
Fixed CZJ Planar 50mm 1.7, Helios 44-2, Cosinon 28mm, CZJ Sonnar 135, Industar-61, Jupiter-9, Industar-50, CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Weltblick 135mm
DSLR Canon 350D, Pentax K10D
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Mamiya 645E, Petri 6x45, Nettar
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, Pentax SF7, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S,
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Olympus 35RC, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret LR, Welta Welti-I, Argus C4, Kodak Signette 25, Zorki-4, Bessa-R
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Minox 35 ML, Canon Prima Super 105
Compact Digital Caplio GX100, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot 520
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Farside


Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 1864 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesito wrote: | | Farside wrote: | | Well, bellows aside, the Record is suffering the same disease as many Isolettes - frozen focus ring caused by Agfa's green grease going solid. Slightly annoying, but fixable. |
Really?. I'd like to know how...
My Isolette's focus ring is barely moveable without a clamp
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Jes,
"Isolette frozen focus" brings up many instances. The cure is always the same - strip and clean out the green muck.
http://tinyurl.com/6k4akz
Mine has three tiny screws to slacken first before I can remove the front ring and then get the lens cell out - of course, one of the screws is blocked by the fold-down flap.  _________________ Dave
The Lenses of Farside
"The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and
prosperity is no longer socialism. It is, instead, the ambitious,
arrogant, unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism."
-- Czech President Vaclav Klaus |
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Farside


Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 1864 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Now I've just found the bellow on the Record II are pin-holed in a couple of places. I discovered this by the flashlight bulb inside the bellows trick.
Damn, damn, damn.
Still, it's easily cured with some black rubber glue. _________________ Dave
The Lenses of Farside
"The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and
prosperity is no longer socialism. It is, instead, the ambitious,
arrogant, unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism."
-- Czech President Vaclav Klaus |
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Sevo

Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Farside wrote: | | Now I've just found the bellow on the Record II are pin-holed in a couple of places. |
All non-leather Agfa bellows are pin-holed, unless they have been repaired or replaced. I've never encountered an exception to that rule...
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Farside


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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, it seems to be the norm and it's surprising it's lasted 50 years as it is. I'll do a repair and shoot a roll or two to see what the lens quality is like and then might spend some money on getting a decent set of bellows on it. I wouldn't be surprised if the camera was put aside because of the light leaks and the resulting decades in a drawer caused the lens seizure. _________________ Dave
The Lenses of Farside
"The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and
prosperity is no longer socialism. It is, instead, the ambitious,
arrogant, unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism."
-- Czech President Vaclav Klaus |
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