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 Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: 5D Mark II lens compatibility chart |
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See in excel here
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pBlK6fBzNbwctiFxajJJvQQ&hl=en
hi,
I open this thread to list compatibilities of manual focus lenses with the new EOS 5D Mark II camera.
Everybody who owns or has used the camera is invited to take part by submitting their experiences.
For every lens, the following questions need to be answered:
1) Can be physically mounted on the camera? (YES/NO)
2) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? (YES no problem/YES with problems (specify problems)/NO no picture is taken)
3) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? (YES no problem/YES with problems (specify problems)/NO no picture is taken)
4) Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? (YES (specify max.distance/NO)
5) Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin (which seller it comes from)
Let's make a chart as comprehensive as possible.
Thank you!
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I begin with the lenses I have tried so far:
YASHICA
ML 2.8/24
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
ML 2.8/28
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
ZEISS CONTAX
Makro-Planar 2.8/100
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
Distagon 1.4/35
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
Distagon 2/28 ("Hollywood")
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES but the mirror can not swing back (need to unmount lens after each shot)
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES as long as you start and end Live View mode with lens at distance other than infinity
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES, up to approx.400-500 mt distance
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
Planar 1.4/50
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Big_Is
NIKON
Nikkor AIS 2.5/105
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Nikondiscount
NIKKOR-UD Auto 3.5/20
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter from seller Nikondiscount
ZEISS JENA
Tessar 2.8/50 aluminium, M42 version
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES but the mirror can not swing back (need to unmount lens after each shot)
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES as long as you start and end Live View mode with lens at distance other than infinity
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES but the mirror can not swing back (need to unmount lens after each shot)
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown
Flektogon 4/20
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown; FA Chip adapter, flanged from seller unknown
MEYER-OPTIK GOERLITZ
Lydith 3.5/30
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES but the mirror can not swing back (need to unmount lens after each shot)
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES as long as you start and end Live View mode with lens at distance other than infinity
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES, up to approx. 3 mt distance
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown
Trioplan 2.8/100
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown
STEINHEIL MUENCHEN
Culminar 4.5/135 M42 version
- Can be physically mounted on the camera? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in normal mode? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at infinity in live view mode (mirror locked up)? YES
- Is it possible to take pictures focusing at distances other than infinity? YES
- Specify the type of adapter used and it's origin: FA Chip adapter, no flange from seller unknown
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Nice and important report! Thank you!
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| Attila wrote: | | Nice and important report! Thank you! |
With the help of Alessandro, Trifox, and the others who have the camera, we can make the most complete compatibility list available, I hope!
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | | Attila wrote: | | Nice and important report! Thank you! |
With the help of Alessandro, Trifox, and the others who have the camera, we can make the most complete compatibility list available, I hope! |
Great idea Orio, I'll take notes of how the various lenses I own behve with the 5D MkII from this moment on.
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CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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coincidentally, i tested S-M-C Takumars the other day on **5D** (i don't have 5D2 to try, sorry):
mirror hits these when infinity focus:
20/4.5, 24/3.5, 35/2, 35/3.5, 50/1.4 <-- do not use those with 5D (especially the 24/3.5, mirror hits going up and generates "ERR")!!!
these work fine:
17/4, 28/3.5, macro 50/4, 55/1.8, 85/1.8, 85/1.9, macro 100/4, 105/2.8, 120/2.8, 135/2.5, 135/3.5, 150/4, 200/4, 300/4, 400/4, 500/4.5
tested using both thin (1.35mm) and exact (1.5mm) M42-EF adapters.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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| siriusdogstar wrote: | coincidentally, i tested S-M-C Takumars the other day on 5D (should be same on 5D2):
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5d and 5dmkII mirror is not the same, that's why we need to create an up-to-date list.
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SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
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Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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I just added Contax Planar 1.4/50, Nikkor-UD 3.5/20, Yashica ML 2.8/28, Zeiss Jena Tessar 2.8/50 aluminium M42, Zeiss Jena Flektogon 4/20 and Meyer-Optik Lydith 3.5/30.
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I think that the fact that live view allows mounting of nearly any lens on the 5DII without mirror shaving is a fact of primary importance, that strangely nobody else (that I know of) before me has ever mentioned yet. This is of course not like shooting freely, but in many cases, it can be a good enough compromise!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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| A G Photography wrote: | | siriusdogstar wrote: | coincidentally, i tested S-M-C Takumars the other day on 5D (should be same on 5D2):
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5d and 5dmkII mirror is not the same, that's why we need to create an up-to-date list. |
what is the difference between the 2 mirrors? Size? and/or a complete different design?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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| hk300 wrote: |
what is the difference between the 2 mirrors? Size? and/or a complete different design? |
I don't know precisely what is the difference, but for sure I could not shoot the Distagon 1.4/35 at infinity without shaving the mirror on the 5D.
Let alone the Distagon 2/28, at infinity it could not even produce an image, only a black frame because the mirror did not lift at all.
So we can assume the mirror is certainly a bit smaller.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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| Orio wrote: |
So we can assume the mirror is certainly a bit smaller. |
Hmmm... Somebody is listening to us, maybe?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: M42 S-M-C Takumars |
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| Bruce wrote: | | Orio wrote: |
So we can assume the mirror is certainly a bit smaller. |
Hmmm... Somebody is listening to us, maybe? |
I would like to think so 
But more probably Canon addressed a known problem with the mirror of the 5D falling. So the smaller screen might be due to the redesign. Probably a smaller screen is easier to be kept into place.
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Yes, this thread has a lot of potential.
My 5D MKII just arrived and since i dont have any EF AF around to start shooting, i'm trying to go with the MF lenses for the first tests. However i dont feel confortable about trying to shoot the camera since i dont know the potential hazards that the rear element can cause on the mirror.
Is just an error? Or could permanently damage de mirror?
How do i, safely, test a MF lens in this body without phisically damage it?
I have 2 EXAKTA mount lens to test... it could be a nice addition to the list.
Thanks.
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