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aleksanderpolo
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 Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: ZA Distagon 24/2 coming... |
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aleksanderpolo wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022103sony2010.asp#press
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
nice, I read that minolta had good 24mm in the past
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my_photography wrote:
If I remember correctly, Minolta developed the 24/2.8 for Leica (I am not sure which version) and the same design was used for Minolta 24/2.8.
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Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
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poilu
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:07 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
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| If I remember correctly, Minolta developed the 24/2.8 for Leica (I am not sure which version) and the same design was used for Minolta 24/2.8 |
I hope the "Zeiss" will be better than this "Leica" 
http://forum.mflenses.com/leica-elmarit-24-vs-tamron-t4955,highlight,leica+elmarit+++tamron.html
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my_photography
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my_photography wrote:
The Leica R 24mm originated from Minolta MD Rokkor-X design. Earlier version made by Minolta and later version made by Leica from Minolta design.
It was considered as one of the best 24mm (as commanded by many on the web) by many and that was why Leica asked Minolta to produce their 24mm.
Not sure if the later 24mm AF was the same design with the Rokkor 24mm of not.
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Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
What's the advantage of this product? I think it's only marketing. There's no real advantage having super-tiny camera body + standard sized heavy lens. The big lens on the right seems to be 3x heavy than the camera. That must be pretty unbalanced combo...
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Orio wrote:
I hope for Sony users that it will not look like the infamous Minolta/LeicaR 24mm Elmarit lens, which is considered the worst lens in the whole Leica catalogue...
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my_photography
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my_photography wrote:
In the AF era, Minolta only produced three F2 lenses, namely 28/2, 32/2 and 100/2. All these F2 lenses are highly regarded my Minoltian. Some even suggested they should be put in a different category. Until today, these F2 lenses still fetch good money.
Perhaps this is one of the reason Sony is coming out with F2 for this new 24mm Zeiss instead of a 1.8 or a 1.4. Other reasons might be F2 will be lighter and smaller and the price will be less expensive (hopefully).
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Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
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aleksanderpolo
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aleksanderpolo wrote:
I was a little surprised as I thought Zeiss's design has only 25/2.8...but I know nothing... Does the potential minolta lineage makes it less "Zeiss" (e.g. 3D) in other ZA lens?
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Current lens:
m4/3: 20/1.7; 14-45/3.5-5.6
C/Y: CZ 28/2.8; CZ 35/2.8; CZ 50/1.4
G: 45/2; 90/2.8
M: CV 35/1.4
Rollei: 50/1.8
m42: S-M-C Tak 50/1.4, Helios 44-2
F: AI 28/2; AIS 35/2; AIS 50/1.4; E 50/1.8
FL: 55/1.2
FD: Vivitar(Komine CF) 28/2; Kiron 28/2; nFD 50/1.4; nFD 35-105/3.5-4.5
AR: 40/1.8; 50/1.4; Adaptall 35-80/2.8-3.5
MD: Vivitar(Kiron) 24/2; MD 50/1.4
OM: 21/3.5; 24/2.8; 50/1.4; 135/3.5 |
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thePiRaTE!!
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thePiRaTE!! wrote:
| aleksanderpolo wrote: |
| I was a little surprised as I thought Zeiss's design has only 25/2.8...but I know nothing... Does the potential minolta lineage makes it less "Zeiss" (e.g. 3D) in other ZA lens? |
I have to wonder as well. As was shown to me by No-X, the similarity between the Minolta 85/1.4 and Planar ZA in optical formula. It is a marriage between Minolta and Zeiss heritage, rather than the classic 6/5 in a new mount.
For me, coming to the brand partly because I appreciated the Zeiss look, I was a bit let down. Not that the ZAs aren't good - they are, but they aren't what I was expecting. Further, I've never been happy with the feel of manually focusing an AF lens and the 85ZA was no exception, though SSM implementations are better in this regard, of which it seems the 24 will be one.
SR on FF with the great viewfinder keeps me happy with the A900, but I'm more in my element converting over to Contax glass and than I am with ZA primes. End result - not really excited about this 24.
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