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Oreste
Joined: 08 Sep 2012 Posts: 451
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Which 50 has the best bokeh? |
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Oreste wrote:
Nikon75-150E wrote: |
I want to get a MF 50mm lens for it's bokeh. It can be a 1.4 or 1.8-but not 1.2. Can't afford one of those. I prefer Nikon or Pentax, but that's ok if it's another brand that I can use on my NEX-5n with adapter. I have the 2 Nikon 50 1.8's, the Series E and AF-D. Both have good image quality, but bokeh is not their strong points. |
Most 50mm lenses are made from very similar Gaussian-derived designs. The out-of-focus areas differ only subtly for that reason. |
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plasticmotif
Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 55 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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plasticmotif wrote:
Out of every 50 I've shot with three lenses stick out -
Minolta 58/1.2
Sigma 50/1.4
Canon 50L
Honorable mention to Zeiss 50/1.7 - lovely little lens!
The Rokkor is easily my favorite 50. The 50L has an amazing look to it. I really enjoy images made with this lens. _________________ -Mac |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
The Canon FL 55/1.2 & Olympus OM 55/1.2 are the most affordable 1.2's that I can think of.
The OM 50/1.8 MIJ & 50/1.4 are both good lenses.
The Canon FD 50/1.4, Minolta MD 50/1.4 are nice too.
The Topcor RE 58/1.8 is surgically sharp on my NEX-7. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
Some say one man's meat is another man's poison
and it when it comes to Bokeh there is implicit a modern Japanese look versus the classic German look
anyway these are the 50's I hold in great esteem - more west than east
Agfa: Soligon
Angenieux: S-type
Astro: Kino, Tachar
Bausch & Lomb: Aminar, Baltar, Raytar
Boyer: Saphir
Dallmeyer: Super Six
Enna: Annaston
Isco: Westagon
Kinoptik: Apochromat, Fulgior
Kodak: Ektar, Aero Ektar
Leitz: Elcan, f/1.2 Noktilux,
Sumarrit, Summar, Summitar,
Summicron, Dygon
Meyer: Domiron
Rodenstock: Heligon
Ross: Xtralux
Schneider: f/1.9 Xenon, Xenogon
Steinheil: Quinon
Taylor-Hobson: Amotal, Ivotal,
Kinic, Opic Panchrotal, Speed
Panchro
Wollensak: Raptar
Wray: Copying Lens
Zeiss: Biotar, Flexon, Pancolar _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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eno789
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 159 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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eno789 wrote:
Does 50-55mm macro lenses count? Because you can focus closer, the background blur is smoother.
Any of these are good:
* Canon FD Macro 50mm f/3.5
* Konica Hexanon 55mm f/3.5
* Minolta MD Macro 50mm f/3.5
* Nikon Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 or f/3.5
* Vivitar Macro 55mm f/2.8
Of the normal lenses, I like Minolta MC 55mm f/1.7 and SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8. Below are taken with Minolta MC 55mm f/1.7.
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Zeiss C Sonnar 1.5/50
It is the modern version of the classic 1.5/50 Sonnar.
A couple of examples of photos with evident bokeh:
Sonnar type lenses in 50mm focal lenght are quite uncommon compared to double Gauss (Planar) lenses and 4-elements (Tessar) lenses. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I love them all, to me no best ones, I am happy many of them a bit different. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Misha_M
Joined: 08 Oct 2012 Posts: 178
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Misha_M wrote:
You should give the Helios 77M a go... _________________ Tair 11 133 f/2.8 1958
Jupiter 9 85 f/2 1959
Helios 44M 58 f/2 1978
Helios 44-2 58 f/2 1977
Helios 44 (13 blades) 1959
Helios 77M4 50 f/1.8
Zenitar-M 50 f/1.7 1986
Industar-61 L\Z 50 f/2.8
Helios 40-2, 85 f/1.5 1974 |
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nixland
Joined: 30 Jan 2011 Posts: 577
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: |
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nixland wrote:
Nikon 50/1.4 Ai or Ais is worth to try too. I got the Ais in excellent condition for $100.
I also got the Pentax K 50/1.2 for about $220 It has the smoothest bokeh among my 50-55 f/1.2 lens so far. I had sold it to my MF lens friend though _________________ Carl Zeiss Jena: Biotar 58/2 1Q, DDR Pancolar 80/1.8 MC, Biotar 75/1.5, Biotar 10cm/2, DDR Sonnar 135/3.5 MC
Carl Zeiss C/Y: Planar 50/1.4 T*, Planar 85/1.4 T*, Planar 100/2 T*, Sonnar 135/2.8 T*
Leica: Summicron-R 35/2 v1, Summicron-R 50/2, Summilux-R 80/1.4, Summicron-R 90/2
Pentax: A 50/1.2
Minolta: Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 85/1.7, Rokkor MC 100/2, MD 200/2.8
Olympus: Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2, Zuiko 50/1.2, Zuiko MC Auto-T 85/2, Zuiko Auto-T 100/2
Nikon: Nikkor 28/2.8 Ais, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikkor 105/1.8, 300/2.8 ED (Ais)
Canon: FD 50/1.2 L, FD 85/1.2 L
Sony: 135/2.8 STF
Jupiter: 85/2 Alu
Cyclop: 85/1.5
Meyer-Optic: Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5
Samyang: 8/3.5 FE, 14/2.8, 85/1.4, 85/1.4 UMC
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Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 10cm/2 || Carl Zeiss ZE Distagon 28/2 || Minolta Rokkor MD 35/1.8 || Rokkor-X MC 85/1.7 || Rokkor MD 85/1.7 || Olympus Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2 || Olympus 100/2 || Nikon Nikkor 35/1.4 || Canon: FD 55/1.2 || Vivitar 90/2.5 Series 1 VMC || Tamron: 90/2.5 SP
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bruzzo
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 153
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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bruzzo wrote:
I don't have a lot of 50mm lenses so can't compare much. But I agree to Attila, I like all of them. I think they are a good focal length to work with and different brands and versions of the lens have different characteristics bokeh wise and just overall image. And different lenses in the same situation can bring different tones or textures. Hence, sometimes I bring two cameras with two different 50mm lenses just to get two different takes in the same situation. For example, I have a Rokkor-X 50mm 1.4 got from my father's old dry cabinet and a Nikon 50mm 1.4 AI, and I think they are both very sharp in my standard. But the Nikon to me is very business-like sharp and true to the original object. The Rokkor in the other hand sometimes has a tiny soft glow on the object that gives a different texture to the image.
Just two different lenses with two different characters. I guess there are more extreme examples.
And I agree to Orio too, we often like to discuss which is the sharpest, and which has the best bokeh, the bokeh monster, etc, but in reality, bokeh is often not a big factor as to determine whether a photo is important or to be remembered. Maybe not even a factor. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Zeiss C Sonnar 1.5/50
It is the modern version of the classic 1.5/50 Sonnar.
A couple of examples of photos with evident bokeh:
Sonnar type lenses in 50mm focal lenght are quite uncommon compared to double Gauss (Planar) lenses and 4-elements (Tessar) lenses. |
Is this the same as the one for Nikon S/Contax mount? I happened to read about that one last night, different design to the classic 1.5/50 Sonnar, do you find the rendering to be significantly different to the old version?
http://www.zeisscamera.com/articles_zmsonnar.shtml
Sonnar 1.5/50
Sonnar C T* 1.5/50
The two designs differ in that the triplet formed by the second group in the original is now two air spaced elements. The middle element of the triplet in the original is there as 'filler' to reduce the air-glass interfaces and improve contrast. Modern glass types mean it isn't needed, hence the design change. Just wondered how the rendering was effected by this change. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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