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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3223 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:29 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
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Have you ordered the 62,5 clamp adapter for isco? I've got the 52,5 for angenieux, but the 62,5 could it also but with m65 helicoid I guess |
No, the 42.5mm to m42 adapter which fits this lens. I’m not using a m65 helicoid. _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1636 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Petri TTL with 55mm f/1.8
It even had a Polaroid roll in it, ripped off.
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caspert79
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
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Petri TTL with 55mm f/1.8
It even had a Polaroid roll in it, ripped off.
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Lovely lens! _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1636 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
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blotafton wrote: |
Petri TTL with 55mm f/1.8
It even had a Polaroid roll in it, ripped off.
Lovely lens! |
Yeah I've seen a lot of good samples here and elsewhere and wanted to try! |
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starbucklover69
Joined: 27 Nov 2022 Posts: 46 Location: Swiss
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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starbucklover69 wrote:
I get 4 Kameras today with 5 Lenses. Asahi Pentax SP and SP500 and Asahiflex and a Cosina.
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4082 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Zeiss CY 3.3-4.0/28-85mm, here shown with the Zeiss CY 3.5/70-210mm:
Both lenses are fairly large and heavy, and both lenses perform pretty well on 24 MP FF cameras. Don't expect test results soon - testing zoom lenses is a quite complicated undertaking, since perfomance (including contrast, vignetting, bokeh and distortion) may vary considerably depending on focal length and distance. In addition there's usually more copy-to-copy variation than with primes, and slightly inaccurate adapters (length, tilting) may have a stronger influence too.
As you would expect from a Zeiss CY lens, both lense are very well built. Zooming as well as focusing feels precise. On the CY 3.5/70-210mm (built in Germany, and extremely expensive when new) there's not the slightest trace of wobbling; on the later 3.3-4/28-85mm (built in Japan) you can feel and hear a slight wobbling when zooming ad focusing, though.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11060 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
starbucklover69 wrote: |
I get 4 Kameras today with 5 Lenses. Asahi Pentax SP and SP500 and Asahiflex and a Cosina.
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_________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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BrianSVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 354 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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BrianSVP wrote:
Nice haul. The Takumar 58mm is a very interesting lens, the only Heliar format normal lens ever released for a 35mm SLR. The Cosinon is one of the ubiquitous "Tomioka" 55s. The Takumar 28mm is a very good lens, but is not among their best. The S-M-C 135mm has a couple of variants. The later 6 element version is the better one. The two variants can be distinguished by the number on the A/M switch.
starbucklover69 wrote: |
I get 4 Kameras today with 5 Lenses. Asahi Pentax SP and SP500 and Asahiflex and a Cosina.
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starbucklover69
Joined: 27 Nov 2022 Posts: 46 Location: Swiss
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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starbucklover69 wrote:
BrianSVP wrote: |
The Takumar 58mm is a very interesting lens, the only Heliar format normal lens ever released for a 35mm SLR.
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I have a second Asahiflex with a 50 f3.5 and the 135 f3.5. Its all in my Basement with my Camera Collection. I have over 60 Boxes with Cams and Lenses. I haven't had time to put everything in my display cases yet. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The 135/2.5 seems to have 8 aperture blades. That means it is the better six element version. From the 6133xx serial number it is the new version _________________ pentaxian
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11060 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Also the serial number and, the number 43812 on auto/man switch.
https://takumarguide.weebly.com/1--25--135-43812.html _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3223 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:39 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
starbucklover69 wrote: |
I get 4 Kameras today with 5 Lenses. Asahi Pentax SP and SP500 and Asahiflex and a Cosina.
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Interesting, the 58/2.4 ! _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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Alun Thomas
Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 662 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
BrianSVP wrote: |
Nice haul. The Takumar 58mm is a very interesting lens, the only Heliar format normal lens ever released for a 35mm SLR. |
It looks like the Heliar lens changed slightly as they developed it further:
(image from wikipedia, resized)
The earliest version has the cemented join between the elements with an outward curve, and the subsequent versions with a reversed curvature, sold as a Dynar lens.
(from allphotolenses.com website)
The Takumar lens looks to be a mix between the first and subsequent versions of the original Heliar lens, with the curvature not symmetrical in the front and rear groups.
(sellers pic)
(from camera manual at Butkus website)
My latest purchase also has a Heliar-type design, an Olympus 35mm F/2.8 for their Ace rangefinder camera. I still have to construct an adapting mount for the lens yet. |
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Baekmann
Joined: 28 Feb 2021 Posts: 72
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Baekmann wrote:
I was never really interested in this lens, but today I could pick it up for next to nothing so why not. _________________ www.youtube.com/ohjajohh |
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DrBB
Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 117 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
Tamron 28mm f2.8 adapt-a-matic version - there's something interesting in this series (I didnt saw much quality improvement in later adaptal and adaptall II, in fact, it seems they went "on the budget")
& Sony A100 camera with 18-55 lens (camera needs some TLC but it's fully usable and i think it's a great deal for 25eur, price with lens, battery & charger). This will be great addition to my "i wont cry alot if it's get broken, stolen, lost" equipment set |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4082 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
DrBB wrote: |
Tamron 28mm f2.8 adapt-a-matic version - there's something interesting in this series (I didnt saw much quality improvement in later adaptal and adaptall II, in fact, it seems they went "on the budget") |
I have two versions - first one with a really "old style" optical design, later one with a much better and more integradet designe approach. Which one do you have?
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& Sony A100 camera with 18-55 lens (camera needs some TLC but it's fully usable and i think it's a great deal for 25eur, price with lens, battery & charger). This will be great addition to my "i wont cry alot if it's get broken, stolen, lost" equipment set |
The A100 does have a really interesting CCD sensor (it was basically an improved Minolta Dynax 5D). I have made great b/w portraits with that camera, using the Sony Zeiss ZA 1.8/135mm lens. This gave the perspective and background rendering of a 2.8/200mm on FF before FF was available on the Minolta/Sony DSLR system. AF is a bit slow, and cannot be calbrated by the user. Fast lenses such as the AF 2.8/200, the 1.8/135, the 2/100 or the 1.4/85 may have some backfocus.
The Sony 18-55mm lens is surprisingly good as well.
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3223 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:30 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
2 soap bubble bokeh lenses on a budget: Jena 50/2.8 for 10€ and Fujinon 55/2.2 for 20€. _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1273
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
2 soap bubble bokeh lenses on a budget: Jena 50/2.8 for 10€ and Fujinon 55/2.2 for 20€. |
i dom´t have any 2.8 in 50mm FL, why would anyone get such a lens unless very specific attribute that faster lenses don´t have? - for individual portrait, i rarely close down more than f2 (50mm lenses) |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4082 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
kiddo wrote: |
caspert79 wrote: |
2 soap bubble bokeh lenses on a budget: Jena 50/2.8 for 10€ and Fujinon 55/2.2 for 20€. |
i dom´t have any 2.8 in 50mm FL, why would anyone get such a lens unless very specific attribute that faster lenses don´t have? - for individual portrait, i rarely close down more than f2 (50mm lenses) |
Tessar type 2.8/50mm lenses usually are very small and lightweight.
Other than that, most Tessar lenses have more astigmatism than their faster double gauss equivalents. Due to their simple three element construction they often have a better overall contrast than their double gauss conterparts (at least if you compare old lenses from the 1950s).
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3223 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
kiddo wrote: |
caspert79 wrote: |
2 soap bubble bokeh lenses on a budget: Jena 50/2.8 for 10€ and Fujinon 55/2.2 for 20€. |
i dom´t have any 2.8 in 50mm FL, why would anyone get such a lens unless very specific attribute that faster lenses don´t have? - for individual portrait, i rarely close down more than f2 (50mm lenses) |
A specific attribute such as soap bubble bokeh? 😉 |
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kiddo
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
kiddo wrote: |
caspert79 wrote: |
2 soap bubble bokeh lenses on a budget: Jena 50/2.8 for 10€ and Fujinon 55/2.2 for 20€. |
i dom´t have any 2.8 in 50mm FL, why would anyone get such a lens unless very specific attribute that faster lenses don´t have? - for individual portrait, i rarely close down more than f2 (50mm lenses) |
Tessar type 2.8/50mm lenses usually are very small and lightweight.
Other than that, most Tessar lenses have more astigmatism than their faster double gauss equivalents. Due to their simple three element construction they often have a better overall contrast than their double gauss conterparts (at least if you compare old lenses from the 1950s).
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isn´t it a 3 groups and 4 elements? i´ve seen em sell prety fast for good money , but , to be honest, i didn´t get the idea why would that be |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3223 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
kiddo wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
kiddo wrote: |
caspert79 wrote: |
2 soap bubble bokeh lenses on a budget: Jena 50/2.8 for 10€ and Fujinon 55/2.2 for 20€. |
i dom´t have any 2.8 in 50mm FL, why would anyone get such a lens unless very specific attribute that faster lenses don´t have? - for individual portrait, i rarely close down more than f2 (50mm lenses) |
Tessar type 2.8/50mm lenses usually are very small and lightweight.
Other than that, most Tessar lenses have more astigmatism than their faster double gauss equivalents. Due to their simple three element construction they often have a better overall contrast than their double gauss conterparts (at least if you compare old lenses from the 1950s).
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isn´t it a 3 groups and 4 elements? i´ve seen em sell prety fast for good money , but , to be honest, i didn´t get the idea why would that be |
These simple Tessars can do great things: https://flic.kr/p/LvDMTK |
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DrBB
Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 117 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
DrBB wrote: |
Tamron 28mm f2.8 adapt-a-matic version - there's something interesting in this series (I didnt saw much quality improvement in later adaptal and adaptall II, in fact, it seems they went "on the budget") |
I have two versions - first one with a really "old style" optical design, later one with a much better and more integradet designe approach. Which one do you have?
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I'll get them both in 2-3 days, but i'm pretty sure it's earlier (longer) version
stevemark wrote: |
DrBB wrote: |
& Sony A100 camera with 18-55 lens (camera needs some TLC but it's fully usable and i think it's a great deal for 25eur, price with lens, battery & charger). This will be great addition to my "i wont cry alot if it's get broken, stolen, lost" equipment set |
The A100 does have a really interesting CCD sensor (it was basically an improved Minolta Dynax 5D). I have made great b/w portraits with that camera, using the Sony Zeiss ZA 1.8/135mm lens. This gave the perspective and background rendering of a 2.8/200mm on FF before FF was available on the Minolta/Sony DSLR system. AF is a bit slow, and cannot be calbrated by the user. Fast lenses such as the AF 2.8/200, the 1.8/135, the 2/100 or the 1.4/85 may have some backfocus.
The Sony 18-55mm lens is surprisingly good as well.
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The main reason (beside the price) is the amount of available cheap A mount lenses, I guess it'll be fun to play with |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4082 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
DrBB wrote: |
I'll get them both in 2-3 days, but i'm pretty sure it's earlier (longer) version |
A real "character lens" then, to say it politely
DrBB wrote: |
The main reason (beside the price) is the amount of available cheap A mount lenses, I guess it'll be fun to play with |
Minolta AF lenses like the G series 3.5/17-35, 2.8/28-70 and 2.8/80-200mm are VERY well made, and optically they are better then any of the corresponding the pre-1985 MF lenses. AF 2.8/20, 2/28, 2/35 are as good as the best pre-1985 MF lenses, and AF 1.4/85, 2/100 and 2.8/200 APO are lots of fun as well. Nearly all of them these days are available comparatively cheap
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4082 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
kiddo wrote: |
isn´t it a 3 groups and 4 elements? i´ve seen em sell prety fast for good money , but , to be honest, i didn´t get the idea why would that be |
Sorry, my mistake ... translation error!
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