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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1839 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:16 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Haiou-64 on A7 by René Maly, on Flickr _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Contax Rangefinder Zeiss 2.0/85 Sonnar |
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Marek wrote:
newst wrote: |
Who bids significant dollars on Ebay without even reading the description? |
Me, for example. (But I very rarely redeem the transaction.)
Congratulations to a new lens. _________________ Angry young man !
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kievuser
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 551
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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kievuser wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote: |
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I just heard the last couple of days that the MINGCA S-201 58mm F2 is a better Biotar copy with lanthanum elements. I will test it when I got time. This is new information for this lens, although I bought it many years ago.
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Nice! Never seen one before, i was chasing a Seagull DF with Haiou 58mm lens because it is a Minolta clone and the lens is indeed a Biotar copy with Minolta SR mount. Is this one also a Minolta mount SLR and lens?
I bought a Haiou lens, should arrive in a couple of days, i'm quite curious about it's performance. |
Thanks! If you are chasing the earliest model with a 'panda' Haiou-64 lens like the one on the right in the picture, then it is also a lens with lanthanum element, and I heard that they were hand-grind. I also have a copy of this, but never tried it yet.I hope yours is a good example.
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I just read a thread about these Chinese Biotar 58/2 copy lenses last night, and learned something new about them. The earlier 58/2 Haiou and Pearl River lenses have lanthanum elements, the Seagull ones has 2 elements and a Pearl River 58/2 has 3 elements of lanthanum glass. Sometime in the 1980's, Seagull 58/2 changed to high-refraction glass for those elements to save the cost. I have accumulated quite a few of these lenses, and I might start a thread for them. The Pearl River 58/2 is on the left. |
I've had the Haiou-64 (the one on the right) for a while, and when I first tried it I wasn't really impressed. But, I thought it was a lens that deserved another chance so I took it out and tried it again, it's a Biotar, a copy of the Helios that's a copy of the Zeiss; how bad could it be?
Other than being remarkably heavy and the worst ergonomics I've seen on any lens, why is there a knurled section just forward of the aperture that I keep trying to turn? and the focus knurling is rubbish. Other than the black enamel paint that's missing on one side of the aperture ring the lens is actually good quality. I'm still a bit undecided about the sharpness of the lens, but it's certainly a lens I'll use again, and I need to do a back to back with a Helios, which I think will beat it.
I'd post a picture from the Haiou, but I'm getting all soers of error codes
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It would be interesting to see a back to back test with a Helios. I also have some Helios 58/2 lenses of various versions.I may do the same thing. My impression of those Haiou 64 lenses is that they are quite sharp, but the colour is a little dull compared to modern lenses. Those Pearl River 58/2 could be better as some have a different coating. What do you mean a knurled section? The aperture stop-down lever for DOF preview? |
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kievuser
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 551
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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kievuser wrote:
That is a beautiful set! Your Haiou 64 is in excellent condition. Let's see some sample pictures. |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1839 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
kievuser wrote: |
Let's see some sample pictures. |
Thanks! They are here: http://forum.mflenses.com/haiou-64-58mm-f-2-minolta-md-sr-mount-t76550.html _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Moskva 5 for 6X9
Lens is 10.5cm f3.5
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3072 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
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Moskva 5 for 6X9
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Congratulations. I will be interested to hear of your experience with using it.
I looked at a couple and found them a bit unwieldy to use. Maybe I was being too impatient. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
uddhava wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
Moskva 5 for 6X9
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Congratulations. I will be interested to hear of your experience with using it.
I looked at a couple and found them a bit unwieldy to use. Maybe I was being too impatient. |
Yes, I am also interested in the ergonomics. Shutter button on the left will be a challenge I think
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
Moskva 5 for 6X9
Lens is 10.5cm f3.5 |
Cool! I have this exact same camera. I just finished my first roll of film with it, and I'm anxious to see how it performed. Yours looks to be in about the same cosmetic shape as mine. Good luck with yours! _________________ Michael
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mutusorin
Joined: 07 Sep 2014 Posts: 31
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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mutusorin wrote:
Jupiter-3 + busted zorki camera for 22 euros
the focus is a little stiff but for this kind of money I cant complain _________________ Cameras: canon 600D, Sony Alpha 6000
Canon Af lenses: Canon 18-135mm, Canon 50mm 1.8
Sony AF lenses: sony 16-50mm, sigma 19mm 2.8
M42 lenses: Helios 77M-4 50mm 1.8, Pentax SMC 50mm 1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50mm 1.8, 2 x Flektogon 35mm 2.4, Industar 50mm 2.8 macro, MIR 1-V 37mm 2.8, Helios 44-2 58mm, CZJ Sonnar 135mm 3.5 zebra, Pentacon 29mm 2.8 |
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sergtum
Joined: 14 Nov 2016 Posts: 735
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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sergtum wrote:
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Jupiter-3 + busted zorki camera for 22 euros
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oooo!!!!!!!! congrats!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
Moskva 5 for 6X9
Lens is 10.5cm f3.5 |
Cool! I have this exact same camera. I just finished my first roll of film with it, and I'm anxious to see how it performed. Yours looks to be in about the same cosmetic shape as mine. Good luck with yours! |
Great Michael.
Mine is on a slow boat from Ukraine. I have been waiting to find one of these with the self timer intact and functioning. Apparently these are often broken or missing.
It will be good to compare experiences.
Happy snaps
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
Moskva 5 for 6X9
Lens is 10.5cm f3.5 |
Cool! I have this exact same camera. I just finished my first roll of film with it, and I'm anxious to see how it performed. Yours looks to be in about the same cosmetic shape as mine. Good luck with yours! |
I too.
Let's make a club.
I like it.
I also have a Moskva-2, not in such good cosmetic condition but working just fine.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Excellent Oliver.
And you have the 6X6 mask as well. Mine comes in 6X9 only.
Also a 1959 camera like yours.
Cheers
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:36 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Another alu lens for me, i couldn t resist to a Tair 11:
it s now official, i have an addiction:
i did a tutorial of the CLA but half of the pics have hand shake blur are oof, i just don t know to take pictures with my phone, i guess i ll have to buy another lens to do a tutorial
EDIT: as per Oliver suggestion, i did the tutorial, here it is:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1487731.html#1487731
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
They are fantastic Tomas !
You should post your tutorial, even with blurred pictures. You'll edit it later and change them if needed. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:44 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
They are fantastic Tomas !
You should post your tutorial, even with blurred pictures. You'll edit it later and change them if needed. |
Oh, i didn t thought of that, ok i will post a tutorial and put a link here! |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3072 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
That's a lens I should really pick up, only the prices have gone up a lot. |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
tomasg wrote: |
Olivier wrote: |
They are fantastic Tomas !
You should post your tutorial, even with blurred pictures. You'll edit it later and change them if needed. |
Oh, i didn t thought of that, ok i will post a tutorial and put a link here! |
Thank you very much _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
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tomasg
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
tomasg wrote: |
Olivier wrote: |
They are fantastic Tomas !
You should post your tutorial, even with blurred pictures. You'll edit it later and change them if needed. |
Oh, i didn t thought of that, ok i will post a tutorial and put a link here! |
Thank you very much |
You re welcome, i know the pics aren t the best, i hope the tutorial makes some sense. |
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tomasg
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
uddhava wrote: |
That's a lens I should really pick up, only the prices have gone up a lot. |
I paid 160 eur for mine all included, bit pricy, but the lens was in good shape and from Latvija, so no duty taxes or VAT to pay that i would had to pay for a cheaper one from Russia for example. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
tomasg wrote: |
uddhava wrote: |
That's a lens I should really pick up, only the prices have gone up a lot. |
I paid 160 eur for mine all included, bit pricy, but the lens was in good shape and from Latvija, so no duty taxes or VAT to pay that i would had to pay for a cheaper one from Russia for example. |
Really nice copy. It's just an investment, the lens will never be less worth _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
tomasg wrote: |
uddhava wrote: |
That's a lens I should really pick up, only the prices have gone up a lot. |
I paid 160 eur for mine all included, bit pricy, but the lens was in good shape and from Latvija, so no duty taxes or VAT to pay that i would had to pay for a cheaper one from Russia for example. |
Really nice copy. It's just an investment, the lens will never be less worth |
Yes, my thinking too and i am sure i could resale it now for a bit more than i paid for it. The work i put into it is fun for me, it s very rewarding once you finish it! |
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Eddie46
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Eddie46 wrote:
I never cease to be amazed at some the wonderful kit displayed in this thread!
What amazes me the most is the pristine condition of so many of them,thank-you for posting these pictures folks. |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you so much for your tutorial Tomas ! _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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