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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wonderful projection lens indeed!


PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That wonderful projection lens looks almost as heavy of my latest acquisition:

Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5 / 500

(got bad case of GAS flare-up!)


PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nothing too exciting here, just filling in a 40mm sized gap in my collection.

I don't have another lens in this focal length and I've heard decent things.

This is my first Hexanon, likely not my last.



PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hapgood wrote:
Nothing too exciting here, just filling in a 40mm sized gap in my collection.

I don't have another lens in this focal length and I've heard decent things.

This is my first Hexanon, likely not my last.


I had one of those for a long time, I know a lot of people use it for video work. It's so small, even on mirrorless, perfect for hiking when traveling light. The only downside I can remember about this lens was it sometimes didn't perform well at f/1.8 in strong direct sunlight or high contrasting areas, but maybe I just had a bad copy.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Berolina Westromat 35mm 2.8

Zuiko Auto-W 24mm 2.8
Zuiko Auto-S 50mm 1.4






PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just picked up a Leicaflex Standard with the Elmarit 35mm f2.8 and 135mm f2.8. The 135mm might need some help cleaning, but the 35mm is good to go. Now I need a new adapter for the Fuji!


PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very excited to snag this one at a reasonable price. I am now just one lens away from a complete set of the Adapt-A-Matic primes.





PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hapgood wrote:
Very excited to snag this one at a reasonable price. I am now just one lens away from a complete set of the Adapt-A-Matic primes.




Impressive size - and utterly un-impressive performance Wink ...
It's the worst of the many vintage lenses in the 20mm range i have ... but certainly a nice piece of history!

S


PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:

Impressive size - and utterly un-impressive performance Wink ...
It's the worst of the many vintage lenses in the 20mm range i have ... but certainly a nice piece of history!

S


I have realistic expectations given it's age and limitations, don't worry!

Just because I'm curious, what in your opinion is the best?


PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Impressive looking lens. I too am still looking for a 21mm lens to complete a prime collection (Panagor in this case, the Kiron made 21mm F4) F11 is the sweet spot of this lens for landscape. It would be a bit unreasonable to expect tack sharp corners wide open on an old ultra wide lens.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laugh 1 Heh...heh...heh

I was out bid on the extremely rare original round clamp-on hood for Super-TAKUMAR 1:3,5 / 28 (Model I with 58mm filter size), which sold for over $35, but a clamp-on square hood for the Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5 / 24 came up for $15 BIN and free shipping so I bought it. Fits perfectly!


PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A well beaten Tokina 90mm 2.5. Finally I am able to use this copy as my other copy is too new to be used. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


(sellers pic)
I managed to score this rareish Kyoei M42 80mm F/3.5 SLR lens on Yahoo Japan last night, still to receive. I believe the L39 and SLR versions were possibly the same optically, the L39 version seems to be alot more commonly seen for sale, whereas this is only the second SLR version I have seen. As a keen collector of these early Kyoei SLR lenses, I now have everything up to the 250mm F/4, although most of them are badged Soligor, with the exception of the 250mm badged Yashinon-R, and the 150mm F/4.5 which is badged Kyoei also (the other very rare focal length in that series).


PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
M42 Petri CC 55/1.8. It came on a camera body and was very cheap. So a great opportunity to try out this lens.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
- Minolta MC-X 135mm f/3.5, early version with DOF preview button
- Minolta ROKKOR TC 135mm f/4 bellows lens

Brings me (a bit) closer to completion of my collection of Minolta SR mount 135mm focal length lenses. Which is a silly quest really; Dennis Lohmann's list has 32 variants, and even he missed one if you care about minor details... Wink

caspert79 wrote:
M42 Petri CC 55/1.8. It came on a camera body and was very cheap. So a great opportunity to try out this lens.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
RokkorDoctor wrote:


caspert79 wrote:
M42 Petri CC 55/1.8. It came on a camera body and was very cheap. So a great opportunity to try out this lens.


No excuses required on mflenses; we all understand Friends


I know I know 😜


PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sankyo Kohki Japan Super-Komura uni auto zoom 1:4.5 75-150mm and a vize for bending right filter threads:
Sankyo Kohki Super-Komura 75-150mm 1:4.5 by The lens profile, on Flickr

Sankyo Kohki Super-Komura 75-150mm 1:4.5 by The lens profile, on Flickr

Filter thread vize by The lens profile, on Flickr


PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hapgood wrote:
stevemark wrote:

Impressive size - and utterly un-impressive performance Wink ...
It's the worst of the many vintage lenses in the 20mm range i have ... but certainly a nice piece of history!

S


I have realistic expectations given it's age and limitations, don't worry!

Just because I'm curious, what in your opinion is the best?


Depends a bit on your definition of "vintage" ... probably the Zeiss CY 2.8/21mm (which is a 1990s lens of course).

When we look a older OEM retrofocus superwides from pre-1990, I have the following ones:

Canon nFD 2.8/20mm
Konica AR 4/21mm
Konica AR 2.8/21mm
Mamiya Sekor CS2.8/21mm
Minolta MC-X 2.8/21mm
Minolta MD 2.8/20mm
Minolta AF 2.8/20mm
Nikkor Ai 3.5/20mm
Nikkor AF AiS 2.8/20mm (should be the same optics as MF version)
Olympus OM 3.5/21mm
Pentax-A 2.8/20mm
Topcor RE 4/20mm
Yashica ML 3.5/21mm

Out of these, and for practical purposes, I would rank the Canon nFD, the Minolta MD, and the two Nikkors AI 3.5/20mm and AiS 2.8/20mm pretty similar. MinAF slightly better, and Topcon very good as well (tough slower). In fact, I should re-test the entire bunch since I've compared only half of them really side-by-side. Might be something for next week - if the weather is stable at some point ...

S


PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
Might be something for next week - if the weather is stable at some point ...

S


That's an impressive collection! I'd be curious to see how that shakes out.

I have a Canon FD 17mm f4 that came with a lot of older Canon gear but I haven't done much with it yet. Shouldn't be too different from the 20mm, I would think?


PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
RokkorDoctor wrote:
. . .
Brings me (a bit) closer to completion of my collection of Minolta SR mount 135mm focal length lenses. Which is a silly quest really...

Silly, but no doubt a lot of fun!


RokkorDoctor wrote:
Dennis Lohmann's list has 32 variants, and even he missed one if you care about minor details... Wink

I love minor details. Smile
Wow. Are any of those 33 simply cosmetic variations?

I'm more familiar with Pentax lenses. And according to the pentaxforums.com lens database, from 1953-2000 Pentax (Asahi Optical Co.) produced 19 different 135mm lenses for 135 film.
[They also made 2 for medium format film. Wink]
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/


PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The store brand discussion here recently got me to thinking about these.



Twenty dollars o.t.d.




Apart from a little external dust and dirt, it appears almost o.k.
The aperture blades are a little slow on auto closing past f5.6.
I'll have to watch this with high shutter speeds.
The extruded and anodized aluminum mounting contact plate is a new one on me.
I thought it was plastic at first.
The rest of it seems to be normal lens metal- even the aperture ring is aluminum.



Different color combinations here...




...and here.

I haven't a clue as to who made it.
Supposedly "macro". MFD is about 7" or 0.2 meters.



Close in watch shot...



Crop from frame above.



Similar crop from 55mm Micro Nikkor f3.5

Nothing spectacular here, but these 3rd party 28's do interesting things with color on outdoor flowers.


From another camera shop about a mile away.


In the junk clearance bin. Two dollars O.T.D. Mr. Green
Vivitar 2X-3 teleconverter.




Interesting aperture link-up, with somewhat odd provisions for the old "F" prong, and the later A/I tab.
Something to practice on. I/Q with it is as low as expected.
Oddly enough, it too wears an aluminum mounting contact plate. Confused
It may make an interesting extension tube if I can get the glass out of it.

-D.S.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
55 wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote:
Dennis Lohmann's list has 32 variants, and even he missed one if you care about minor details... Wink

I love minor details. Smile
Wow. Are any of those 33 simply cosmetic variations?


Some are cosmetic variations.

Dennis Lohmann's list:

http://minolta.eazypix.de/lenses/

The f/3.5 one I got recently is no. 190 in his list; MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5. Listed as the early MC-X version with 10 waffle rows on the focus grip. However, Dennis' table omits that there are two versions of that early MC-X (MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5):

- an (early) early MC-X MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5 that still has the depth-of-field preview button inherited from its MC II predecessor
- a (late) early MC-X MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5 that no longer has that depth-of-field preview button

After that came the late MC-X version which looks very much like the famous late (4/4) MC-X 135mm f./2.8

The presence or not of a depth-of-field preview button classifies as more than just a cosmetic change in my book Wink

No. 200, The ROKKOR TC 135mm f/4 preset lens is also listed under one entry, but there ate two cosmetic variations; one with a black-anodised mount, and one with a matte-chromium plated mount. There may even be a non-listed variation with a 43mm filter thread like its shorter 100mm f/4 brother. I don't think Dennis ever claimed or pretended that all minor cosmetic variants were listed. But if you are a true fanatic collector then the number of Minolta MF 135mm lenses you can collect is quite significant.

TBH, I think I will skip the Celtics in my collection. Other than that still missing is the very first 135mm f/2.8 (no. 171 in the list), which is an early preset-version that had a very short production run and is likely only to be found in Japan.

Some of those rare ones are optically nothing special, but can go for crazy money.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
RokkorDoctor wrote:
55 wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote:
Dennis Lohmann's list has 32 variants, and even he missed one if you care about minor details... Wink

I love minor details. Smile
Wow. Are any of those 33 simply cosmetic variations?


Some are cosmetic variations.

Dennis Lohmann's list:

http://minolta.eazypix.de/lenses/

The f/3.5 one I got recently is no. 190 in his list; MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5. Listed as the early MC-X version with 10 waffle rows on the focus grip. However, Dennis' table omits that there are two versions of that early MC-X (MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5):

- an (early) early MC-X MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5 that still has the depth-of-field preview button inherited from its MC II predecessor
- a (late) early MC-X MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5 that no longer has that depth-of-field preview button

Please note there was a very early MC-X QD version with painted lens mount index instead of the plastic bead. Then, there was also a later version without the lens formula suffix (QD). Now this one is a minor cosmetic change but it indicates it was part of the last batch of lenses made prior to the change to the version with built-in shade. Here is picture of one

After that came the late MC-X version which looks very much like the famous late (4/4) MC-X 135mm f./2.8

The presence or not of a depth-of-field preview button classifies as more than just a cosmetic change in my book Wink

No. 200, The ROKKOR TC 135mm f/4 preset lens is also listed under one entry, but there ate two cosmetic variations; one with a black-anodised mount, and one with a matte-chromium plated mount. There may even be a non-listed variation with a 43mm filter thread like its shorter 100mm f/4 brother. I don't think Dennis ever claimed or pretended that all minor cosmetic variants were listed. But if you are a true fanatic collector then the number of Minolta MF 135mm lenses you can collect is quite significant.

TBH, I think I will skip the Celtics in my collection. Other than that still missing is the very first 135mm f/2.8 (no. 171 in the list), which is an early preset-version that had a very short production run and is likely only to be found in Japan.

Some of those rare ones are optically nothing special, but can go for crazy money.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
michelb wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote:
55 wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote:
Dennis Lohmann's list has 32 variants, and even he missed one if you care about minor details... Wink

I love minor details. Smile
Wow. Are any of those 33 simply cosmetic variations?


Some are cosmetic variations.

Dennis Lohmann's list:

http://minolta.eazypix.de/lenses/

The f/3.5 one I got recently is no. 190 in his list; MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5. Listed as the early MC-X version with 10 waffle rows on the focus grip. However, Dennis' table omits that there are two versions of that early MC-X (MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5):

- an (early) early MC-X MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5 that still has the depth-of-field preview button inherited from its MC II predecessor
- a (late) early MC-X MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5 that no longer has that depth-of-field preview button

Please note there was a very early MC-X QD version with painted lens mount index instead of the plastic bead. Then, there was also a later version without the lens formula suffix (QD). Now this one is a minor cosmetic change but it indicates it was part of the last batch of lenses made prior to the change to the version with built-in shade. Here is picture of one

After that came the late MC-X version which looks very much like the famous late (4/4) MC-X 135mm f./2.8

The presence or not of a depth-of-field preview button classifies as more than just a cosmetic change in my book Wink

No. 200, The ROKKOR TC 135mm f/4 preset lens is also listed under one entry, but there ate two cosmetic variations; one with a black-anodised mount, and one with a matte-chromium plated mount. There may even be a non-listed variation with a 43mm filter thread like its shorter 100mm f/4 brother. I don't think Dennis ever claimed or pretended that all minor cosmetic variants were listed. But if you are a true fanatic collector then the number of Minolta MF 135mm lenses you can collect is quite significant.

TBH, I think I will skip the Celtics in my collection. Other than that still missing is the very first 135mm f/2.8 (no. 171 in the list), which is an early preset-version that had a very short production run and is likely only to be found in Japan.

Some of those rare ones are optically nothing special, but can go for crazy money.
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Even more versions!? Shocked Wink

I suppose it is one of the most popular focal lengths that they always kept in their MF lens line-up.

A 1990 brochure I have indicates that at the very end they only kept the f/2.8 in their line-up. Maybe even that one was dropped later; I don't have any Minolta lens brochures from after 1990.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
RokkorDoctor wrote:
michelb wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote:
55 wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote:
Dennis Lohmann's list has 32 variants, and even he missed one if you care about minor details... Wink

I love minor details. Smile
Wow. Are any of those 33 simply cosmetic variations?


Some are cosmetic variations.

Dennis Lohmann's list:

http://minolta.eazypix.de/lenses/

The f/3.5 one I got recently is no. 190 in his list; MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5. Listed as the early MC-X version with 10 waffle rows on the focus grip. However, Dennis' table omits that there are two versions of that early MC-X (MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5):

- an (early) early MC-X MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5 that still has the depth-of-field preview button inherited from its MC II predecessor
- a (late) early MC-X MC TELE ROKKOR QD 135mm f/3.5 that no longer has that depth-of-field preview button

Please note there was a very early MC-X QD version with painted lens mount index instead of the plastic bead. Then, there was also a later version without the lens formula suffix (QD). Now this one is a minor cosmetic change but it indicates it was part of the last batch of lenses made prior to the change to the version with built-in shade. Here is picture of one

After that came the late MC-X version which looks very much like the famous late (4/4) MC-X 135mm f./2.8

The presence or not of a depth-of-field preview button classifies as more than just a cosmetic change in my book Wink

No. 200, The ROKKOR TC 135mm f/4 preset lens is also listed under one entry, but there ate two cosmetic variations; one with a black-anodised mount, and one with a matte-chromium plated mount. There may even be a non-listed variation with a 43mm filter thread like its shorter 100mm f/4 brother. I don't think Dennis ever claimed or pretended that all minor cosmetic variants were listed. But if you are a true fanatic collector then the number of Minolta MF 135mm lenses you can collect is quite significant.

TBH, I think I will skip the Celtics in my collection. Other than that still missing is the very first 135mm f/2.8 (no. 171 in the list), which is an early preset-version that had a very short production run and is likely only to be found in Japan.

Some of those rare ones are optically nothing special, but can go for crazy money.
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Even more versions!? Shocked Wink

I suppose it is one of the most popular focal lengths that they always kept in their MF lens line-up.

A 1990 brochure I have indicates that at the very end they only kept the f/2.8 in their line-up. Maybe even that one was dropped later; I don't have any Minolta lens brochures from after 1990.



In 1985 with the introduction of AF, they quit developing MF lenses (except for the entry level zooms that appeared to be made by others) so MF lenses were likely phased out as they sold out of existing inventories. Considering they were probably still making 50mm F 1.7 and F2 to be sold in kits, anything mentioned in 1990 or later catalogues were probably only remaining stocks from the pre-AF era.
In a 1995 Canadian price list i have, the 135mm F 2.8 is still listed but at a higher price than its AF version. So are other lenses of equivalent focal length/aperture.

Going back to the MC-X lenses, there can be up to 7 variations when looking at these lenses since MC-X evolved with the following different changes.
- early with painted lens mount index, DOF lever or button, lens formula suffix
- change to plastic bead lens mount index but keeping the above other features
- introduction of the ROKKOR-X painted in orange for the North American market with serial numbers in a totally different sequence than the lenses for the rest of the world
- removal of the DOF lever (or button) and this for both ROKKOR and ROKKOR-X
- removal of the lens formula suffix and this for both ROKKOR and ROKKOR-X
- in many models, changes to the lens optical formula/body. This would be the case for both the 135mm F 2.8 that went from PF (6/5) to 4/4 and for the 3.5 that remained at 4/4 but gained a built-in shade with changes to the focusing grip/ring

Please note that some variations do not exist in all lenses since these optional lenses were probably not manufactured on a continuous basis, lenses with lower volume were likely not to be made for some periods of time thus skipping some of these changes.
Another factor that affects the number of lenses seen in some variations is that Minolta also made Celtic lenses for the North American market and sales of these appear to have cannibalized sales of the Rokkor line of lenses, or Minolta USA preferred to sell the Celtic's in the F 3.5 lens and this would explain why the late model with built-in shade is very hard to find with the orange ROKKOR-X mention.
Here a pic one of the only 2 i ever saw of this.

Same can apply to the MC W.ROKKOR-X HH 1;1.8 f=35mm where there are some lenses seen without the HH suffix but i have never seen a plain ROKKOR without the HH suffix
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