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stevemark
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Just bought the Minolta AF 70-210/4 beercan. It was so darn cheap, I couldn’t let it pass.
Used to have this lens in my analogue days by the way, and was quite happy with it. |
What do you mean by "so damn chap" ...?
I remember the former head of servicing at Minolta Switzerland telling me that they had litterally had trashed "waste containers full of MinAF 4/70-210 mm lenses" during the transition period from the "beercan" to later much lighter MinAF 70-210mm lenses (plastic fantastic MinAF 3.5-4.5/70-210 and 4.5-5.6/70-210).
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caspert79
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:00 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
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Just bought the Minolta AF 70-210/4 beercan. It was so darn cheap, I couldn’t let it pass.
Used to have this lens in my analogue days by the way, and was quite happy with it. |
What do you mean by "so damn chap" ...?
I remember the former head of servicing at Minolta Switzerland telling me that they had litterally had trashed "waste containers full of MinAF 4/70-210 mm lenses" during the transition period from the "beercan" to later much lighter MinAF 70-210mm lenses (plastic fantastic MinAF 3.5-4.5/70-210 and 4.5-5.6/70-210).
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Yeah, that's amazing, and you could call it a crime 
I paid € 40 and I found it within 1 minute after starting my search. Typical asking price here seems to be 60 €, but probably they sell for less. |
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BrianSVP
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's amazing, and you could call it a crime Smile
I paid € 40 and I found it within 1 minute after starting my search. Typical asking price here seems to be 60 €, but probably they sell for less. |
Yeah, the prices on these really cratered after Sony killed off the A mount. Prior to then, they regularly sold for $200+ and were popular pairings for the various Sony SLTs. |
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rloewy
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Location: United States
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| Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Voigtlander Nokton 42.5mm 0.95 in MFT mount. Lovely lovely images with that lens.
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
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Voigtlander Nokton 42.5mm 0.95 in MFT mount. Lovely lovely images with that lens.
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marcusBMG
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| Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Very pleased with this:
The biter bit: won't mount on any of my pentax dslr's 
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Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
marcusBMG Fast mirror! Looks nice. I guess too big diameter to fit on Pentax? Would probably fit on mirrorless. What mount is it?
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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marcusBMG
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marcusBMG wrote:
Thanks visualopsins. It's M42 mount. As you can see from the pic it's very flush to the end. The protruding flash mount/beak on the camera casings prevents the lens attaching.
I may diy a pk mount (the mount looks readily swappable) that is sufficiently protruding to get onto one of my cameras, see how much focus range I lose.
I need to get the samsung NX20 off the shelf its been neglected for a good while.
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Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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BrianSVP
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| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:22 am Post subject: |
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BrianSVP wrote:
These Sovuet mirror lenses typically have enough extra play in the helical that you can attach a short extension tube and adjust the infinity stop to use them with infinity on a Pentax DSLR. I did this when I was still shooting on a K-1.
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Thanks visualopsins. It's M42 mount. As you can see from the pic it's very flush to the end. The protruding flash mount/beak on the camera casings prevents the lens attaching.
I may diy a pk mount (the mount looks readily swappable) that is sufficiently protruding to get onto one of my cameras, see how much focus range I lose.
I need to get the samsung NX20 off the shelf its been neglected for a good while.
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marcusBMG
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marcusBMG wrote:
Thats an intereting suggestion brian. On this lens the gap between the focus ring and the tripod ring at infinity focus is only a few (~4-5) mm, that limits the focus adjustment and the extension I would need to add to the mount would be more. But it's worth a try, if only to get back some of the focus range. The lens only focused to about 30mm with a 10mm extension tube on.
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Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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SandroB
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| Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:51 am Post subject: Super-Takumar |
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A friend gave me a Asahi Pentax Spotmatic with Super-Takumar 1.4/50mm and 2.8/105mm and I recently used them for the first time. Quite happy with the results. First image with the 50mm and the second with 105mm.
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Leitz/Leica Elmarit-M 2; Elmarit-M 28; Summaron 2.8/35; Summicron 35; Summilux 35; Summarit 1.5/50; Elmar 50; Elmar-M 50; Summicron 50; Summilux 50; Elmar 65; Elmar 90; Elmarit 90; Tele-Elmar 135; Elmarit 135; Telyt 4/200.
Steinheil Culminar 2.8/90
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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BrianSVP
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Super-Takumar |
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BrianSVP wrote:
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A friend gave me a Asahi Pentax Spotmatic with Super-Takumar 1.4/50mm and 2.8/105mm and I recently used them for the first time. Quite happy with the results. First image with the 50mm and the second with 105mm.
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Total classics and great images from them!
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