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rloewy
Joined: 31 Jul 2023 Posts: 15 Location: United States
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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rloewy wrote:
Thanks. I have shot a bit with it and I concur, it is a lovely lovely lens. Like most of us here I have a collection of vintage lens in this range - and I admit that I was surprised how much I like it's performance. |
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DrBB
Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 117 Location: Croatia
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Just won Voigtländer Super-Dynarex 135mm f4 (DKL) for 12eur |
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2manylens
Joined: 05 Jul 2024 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:38 pm Post subject: Just got this Canon FL 50mm 1.4 |
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2manylens wrote:
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Canon FL 50mm 1.4. Mostly shot at f/2. Has some weird bokeh at times, lots of coma in the corners wide open. I can see why it's not popular, but it is actually better than most old lenses wide open. A couple of the closeup shots I did were wide open. |
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Alun Thomas
Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 661 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Just got this Canon FL 50mm 1.4 |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
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Canon FL 50mm 1.4. Mostly shot at f/2. Has some weird bokeh at times, lots of coma in the corners wide open. I can see why it's not popular, but it is actually better than most old lenses wide open. A couple of the closeup shots I did were wide open. |
Welcome 2manylens, your first post won't show your pictures, so I'll quote to show them. All subsequent posts will now show your pictures. Do you have a picture of the lens? There are at least 2 versions of the lens, possibly 3, but the first reported version with a 6/4 optical scheme does not seem to have been found or verified in the wild. |
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1214 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:46 am Post subject: Re: Just got this Canon FL 50mm 1.4 |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
Older Soligor 135mm f3.5.
Quick test shot at wide open and ISO 400 seems alright. It wants to fringe in strong back-light, and will probably need a hood.
49mm filter thread diameter. Lens looks like what someone here called looking like a 55-58mm on an extension tube.
I can't tell if it's coated or not- if it is, it's awfully thin coating(s). It is fairly compact for a 135mm. I should compare it size-wise to a few other similar focal lengths around here.
I'll have to fabricate an aperture indexing tab for it so's I can test further without getting muddled on exposure
I got myself another fairly good migraine going just trying to sort through all the Soligor info on this sub-forum.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
"Ain't no half-way" -S.R.V.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11059 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:50 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Welcome 2manylens! Where in the World are you located? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3221 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Ok, my Takumar 200mm f/3.5 has just arrived. It definitely is an impressive lens, despite being 60 years old it looks almost new and all mechanical parts move like it just left the factory. I will share some images soon. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11059 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
Ok, my Takumar 200mm f/3.5 has just arrived. It definitely is an impressive lens, despite being 60 years old it looks almost new and all mechanical parts move like it just left the factory. I will share some images soon. |
Mine too. Looks like it was never mounted on a tripod. My first impressions were good but I haven't used it since. Looking forward to your images. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Vintage_Photographer
Joined: 10 Jun 2024 Posts: 72
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
Added a Minolta MD 75-200 f/4.5 to the collection. It arrived, was unpacked and packed back up again immediately. Front and rear lenses were covered with fungus! _________________ Current gear list:
Mamiya 645 TL Pro with 80mm and 110mm Sekor C, Rolleiflex SL35 with Rollei HFT 50mm/1.8, Rolleinar 135/2.8, 200/3.5, Pentacon 28/2.8 and Horizont 35/2.8, Minolta SRT100X, Rokkor 35-70mm f/3.5, Rokkor 100-300mm f/5.6.
Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR. |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4080 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
Added a Minolta MD 75-200 f/4.5 to the collection. It arrived, was unpacked and packed back up again immediately. Front and rear lenses were covered with fungus! |
Sadly it's one of the Minolta lenses prone to fungus. RokkorDoctor may know more about cleaning the front and rear lenses ...
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Vintage_Photographer
Joined: 10 Jun 2024 Posts: 72
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
Added a Minolta MD 75-200 f/4.5 to the collection. It arrived, was unpacked and packed back up again immediately. Front and rear lenses were covered with fungus! |
Sadly it's one of the Minolta lenses prone to fungus. RokkorDoctor may know more about cleaning the front and rear lenses ...
S |
Sent it straight back for a refund.
Now have a Tokina SD 70-210. f/4-5.6 en route for which I paid the princely sum of £2.99 and £3.89 postage!
I'm assured it has no fungus too.
Should arrive Wednesday or Thursday. _________________ Current gear list:
Mamiya 645 TL Pro with 80mm and 110mm Sekor C, Rolleiflex SL35 with Rollei HFT 50mm/1.8, Rolleinar 135/2.8, 200/3.5, Pentacon 28/2.8 and Horizont 35/2.8, Minolta SRT100X, Rokkor 35-70mm f/3.5, Rokkor 100-300mm f/5.6.
Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR. |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1636 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
Added a Minolta MD 75-200 f/4.5 to the collection. It arrived, was unpacked and packed back up again immediately. Front and rear lenses were covered with fungus! |
Sadly it's one of the Minolta lenses prone to fungus. RokkorDoctor may know more about cleaning the front and rear lenses ...
S |
Sent it straight back for a refund.
Now have a Tokina SD 70-210. f/4-5.6 en route for which I paid the princely sum of £2.99 and £3.89 postage!
I'm assured it has no fungus too.
Should arrive Wednesday or Thursday. |
I've use that Tokina on a Olympus OM-10 and it's really good on Kodak Elite Chrome! |
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Vintage_Photographer
Joined: 10 Jun 2024 Posts: 72
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
Tokina SD (version 1) 70-210 4.5-5.6 arrived today and initial impressions are pretty positive.
It's quite small and light and is very smooth zoom (push/pull) and focus. Aperture rings have nice clicks too.
Images look to be nice and sharp from f/8 onwards (at 200mm) but a little soft wide open.
f/5.6
f/8.0
f/11
f/13
Focus point for each were the stamen pollen grains.
Zooming right in at f/5.6
All in all an excellent result for just £2.99 and £3.98 postage!
Camera used was Fuji X-T4 (26MP). _________________ Current gear list:
Mamiya 645 TL Pro with 80mm and 110mm Sekor C, Rolleiflex SL35 with Rollei HFT 50mm/1.8, Rolleinar 135/2.8, 200/3.5, Pentacon 28/2.8 and Horizont 35/2.8, Minolta SRT100X, Rokkor 35-70mm f/3.5, Rokkor 100-300mm f/5.6.
Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11059 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Pretty good zoom lens results! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Vintage_Photographer
Joined: 10 Jun 2024 Posts: 72
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
Just added this little baby.
Sigma 28-70 Zoom-Є f3.5-4.5 - quite compact and smaller than the MD 35-70 though not up to that lens's sharpness (but much cheaper too!).
Wasn't able to find much about this lens online - most reviews are for the later UC version.
Another eBay bargain at £6 plus £3 postage.
Initial impressions are fairly positive. Annoyingly zooming in or out doesn't maintain focus but in terms of sharpness of image whist not ground breaking is perfectly acceptable. A little CA on occasion but nothing horrendous. _________________ Current gear list:
Mamiya 645 TL Pro with 80mm and 110mm Sekor C, Rolleiflex SL35 with Rollei HFT 50mm/1.8, Rolleinar 135/2.8, 200/3.5, Pentacon 28/2.8 and Horizont 35/2.8, Minolta SRT100X, Rokkor 35-70mm f/3.5, Rokkor 100-300mm f/5.6.
Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR. |
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Vintage_Photographer
Joined: 10 Jun 2024 Posts: 72
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
Quick test shot at 70mm f/8 - just a cactus on the window sill.
Pixel peeping at 100%
_________________ Current gear list:
Mamiya 645 TL Pro with 80mm and 110mm Sekor C, Rolleiflex SL35 with Rollei HFT 50mm/1.8, Rolleinar 135/2.8, 200/3.5, Pentacon 28/2.8 and Horizont 35/2.8, Minolta SRT100X, Rokkor 35-70mm f/3.5, Rokkor 100-300mm f/5.6.
Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR. |
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pepperberry farm
Joined: 02 Jan 2017 Posts: 50
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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pepperberry farm wrote:
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Splendid lens.
You will enjoy it.
Tom |
the adapter finally arrived - I am totally smitten with the Petri 55/1.4:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pepperberryfarm/albums/72177720318264745 |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Such a wonderful lens.
Your images are excellent and show it off well.
This and the Petri CC Auto 55mm f1.8, and the 55mm f2 - are IMHO - among the very best fifties from their era, and hold up splendidly still today.
Congratulations
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars
Joined: 03 Nov 2021 Posts: 253 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:47 am Post subject: Nikkor 35mm f1.4 Ai |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:
I bought this lens around last Christmas from a seller in Haifa, Israel. And then it was shipped to Australia, because of a mistake made by Israelian Post. It was an ordeal, to say the least, especially for the seller, to have the lens returned to his place. It finally arrived after more than six months in transit and I picked it up today from the post office.
Personal note: When buying from international sellers, always recommend the seller to write "Österreich" instead of Austria. It makes the post clerks frown since they have never heard of the country and then they look it up and put it right. Australia and Austria is the most common mistake in international shipment.
The exterior looks like the lens got some good use during its lifetime. Must have been taken on and off a million times, as the little remaining paint on the bayonet indicates. However, the lenses are clear, no fungus and almost complete absence of visible dust. Focussing is smooth and aperture snappy. The 35/1.4 varies extremely in price and goes up to EUR 1.500,--, this one was (probably due to its shabby look) really very attractively priced. I think I got a good one. First light tomorrow on the D610
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4080 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Nikkor 35mm f1.4 Ai |
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stevemark wrote:
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
I bought this lens around last Christmas from a seller in Haifa, Israel. And then it was shipped to Australia, because of a mistake made by Israelian Post. It was an ordeal, to say the least, especially for the seller, to have the lens returned to his place. It finally arrived after more than six months in transit and I picked it up today from the post office. |
Sad to hear - but at least finally all the problems were resolved ...
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
Personal note: When buying from international sellers, always recommend the seller to write "Österreich" instead of Austria. It makes the post clerks frown since they have never heard of the country and then they look it up and put it right. Australia and Austria is the most common mistake in international shipment. |
Sounds like "Switzerland vs Swaziland" ...
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
The exterior looks like the lens got some good use during its lifetime. Must have been taken on and off a million times, as the little remaining paint on the bayonet indicates. However, the lenses are clear, no fungus and almost complete absence of visible dust. Focussing is smooth and aperture snappy. The 35/1.4 varies extremely in price and goes up to EUR 1.500,--, this one was (probably due to its shabby look) really very attractively priced. I think I got a good one. First light tomorrow on the D610 |
Some years ago I was lucky to find a rather nice sample of the later AiS (yours ius Ai) 1.4/35 mounted on an equally nice Nikon F3. The seller - a small photo shop in Southern Switzerloand - was asking about CHF 350.-- for the combo, but since I already had a F3 he agreed to sell me the AiS 1.4/35 for arounf CHF 200.--.
The lens certainly is a "character lens" designed for reportage purposes, and should be used as such. It shares some characteristics with the Nikkor AiS 2/24mm which is a rather lousy (or characterful) lens as well. For landscapes the late 2.8/35mm from any reputed manufacturer are better suited (Canon FD, Konica AR [Var II], Mamiya E/EF, Minolta MD, Nikkor AiS, Yashica ML ... you name it). However I'm sure the AiS 1.4/35 can result in extraordinary images when used wide open - especially b/w or monochrome!
Have fun !! _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars
Joined: 03 Nov 2021 Posts: 253 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Nikkor 35mm f1.4 Ai |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
...but since I already had a F3 he agreed to sell me the AiS 1.4/35 for arounf CHF 200.--. |
Stephan, again and again I´m baffled by the deals you´re able to haul in. I wish I had the time to roam the photographic stores in Vienna more often for such bargains.
Now this lens, sagittal coma flare, lateral chromatic aberration, soft veiled image all open, I´ve read it all. Nikon itself is talking lenghtily about the great history of this lens and efforts put into developing it, but is rather modest in praising its performance.
https://imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0027/
Chapter IV
However, it was (together with the shortly later introduced AiS version) in every press photographer´s bag in the late 70s and 80s and it is an iconic item. I´m simply driven by a curiosity to see what it can do in my own hands. Luckily, I´m not relying on it as my only 35mm lens. Landscape and whatnot, I have a lot of excellent , though slower, alternatives in this focal range - nevertheless, fun I will have with this one, thanks!
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...the Nikkor AiS 2/24mm which is a rather lousy (or characterful) lens as well. |
By the way, why? _________________ Cheers, Gerhard |
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1214 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Nikkor 35mm f1.4 Ai |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
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Looks like a nice lens.
www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/ai3514.html
Probably a bit of S/N overlap here, which seems to be a common occurrence with the 35mm line of SLR Nikkors. (yours seems to be a tiny bit early for a 3+ screw type, according to this data)
I concur with the assertation that the K parts were used up on later A/I lenses- it happened a lot in the 50mm line.
Do post some wide open minimum focus distance samples when you get a chance.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4080 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Nikkor 35mm f1.4 Ai |
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stevemark wrote:
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
...but since I already had a F3 he agreed to sell me the AiS 1.4/35 for arounf CHF 200.--. |
Stephan, again and again I´m baffled by the deals you´re able to haul in. I wish I had the time to roam the photographic stores in Vienna more often for such bargains. |
As I said many times before - I usually do NOT search for a certain lens, but tend to buy what's available at a good price. That was pretty easy some ten yeras ago, but now has become quite difficult since I have quite a lot of lenses already (difficult to spot a "new" one locally). PLUS the prices for much of the rarer / faster stuff has gone up quite a bit.
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
Now this lens, sagittal coma flare, lateral chromatic aberration, soft veiled image all open, I´ve read it all. Nikon itself is talking lenghtily about the great history of this lens and efforts put into developing it, but is rather modest in praising its performance. |
That was a problem for all manufacturers including Canon (EF 1.4/35), Konica (AR 1.8/2, Minolta (AF 1.4/35) and Nikon (pre-AI / K / Ai / AiS 1.4/35). Even Zeiss and Leica did struggle to make an excellent 1.4/35mm for their C/Y and R lineup. Only when Sigma produced its first 1.4/35mm we got a really good fast wideangle!
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
However, it was (together with the shortly later introduced AiS version) in every press photographer´s bag in the late 70s and 80s and it is an iconic item. |
Sure. I'm fully aware of that
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
I´m simply driven by a curiosity to see what it can do in my own hands. Luckily, I´m not relying on it as my only 35mm lens. Landscape and whatnot, I have a lot of excellent , though slower, alternatives in this focal range - nevertheless, fun I will have with this one, thanks! |
Same here
ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
...the Nikkor AiS 2/24mm which is a rather lousy (or characterful) lens as well. |
By the way, why? |
Same reasons as for the 1.4/35mm Nikkor above. At f2 it's simply lousy, and even stopped down it lacks the performance of the f2.8 versions. While an 1.4/35mm at f1.4 is pretty nice to have a wideangle perspective combined with (relatively) smooth background, a 2/24mm at f2 doesn't really "dissolve" the background any more. It really was designed for low light when color films had ISO 100 at most ...
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pepperberry farm
Joined: 02 Jan 2017 Posts: 50
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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pepperberry farm wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
Such a wonderful lens.
Your images are excellent and show it off well.
This and the Petri CC Auto 55mm f1.8, and the 55mm f2 - are IMHO - among the very best fifties from their era, and hold up splendidly still today.
Congratulations
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thank you... |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars
Joined: 03 Nov 2021 Posts: 253 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:38 pm Post subject: Nikkor 35mm f1.4 Ai |
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ZuikosHexanonsandVivitars wrote:
Hi Doc, challenge accepted
First few shots with the 35/1.4 Nikkor on D610. I´ve developed the following images from the NEF files without any changes, though Active D-Lighting is on AUTO and I left that as it is. The images are sized down to 1600x1068.
1/2500 sec @ f1.4 & ISO100 and around closest focus distance. Manage light and angle towards the background right, you might get rewarded. Notice there´s already plenty of sharpness, though it´s veiled. Playing a little bit with dynamic range and contrast would yield a quite acceptable result. I think that applies to most of the following images.
#1
100% crop from above
#2
1/1000 sec @ f1.4 & ISO100 again near close focus distance. The background is about a meter away from the object and it starts to show rather in an unpleasant unruly way. Again veil, but also sharpness, and a bit of luck with the bumblebee. In order to get an agreeable image, some correction in exposure and contrast, probably saturation, might suffice.
#3
100% crop from above
#4
1/1250 sec @ f2.8 & ISO100. Again close to min focus distance and from a similar angle like #1, but stopped down 2 clicks.
#5
100% crop from above
#6
1/4000 sec @ f1.4 & ISO100. Daylight landscape wide open.
#7
100% crop from above
#8
100% crop from similar image but stopped down to f2. The haze is mostly gone and it shows quite some detail. Already at this aperture, it is good and actually much better than my Olympus Zuiko 35mm f2, which shows a whole lot more haze at f2! I made a series down to f/11 and it continues to improve right up to this aperture, though from f2.8 - f4 only in corners and edges. The center is already pretty fine from that aperture onwards.
#9
Following three images are a 100% crop comparison between f1.4 and f2.8
1/3200 sec @ f1.4 & ISO100
#10
100% crop from above
#11
100% crop from similar image but stopped down to f2.8
#12
1/2000 sec @ f1.4 & ISO100. Again something no one in his right mind would do with this lens, though I find it fought well. Here I used Active D-Lighting to brighten up the moss-overgrown tree trunk.
#13
My thoughts, after the first few images: it needs some good practice to get to know the lens thus make sense of it. It´s not an easy going bloke and a creature of the night. It performs well from f2.8 onwards and is then pretty comparable in its performance with a lot of other, slower 35ers from that aperture onwards. F2 and f1.4 should be used under appropriate low light conditions and will most likely perform only well under these conditions, though you might get lucky while experimenting in daylight with them.
35mm is an ideal focal length and certainly far more practical than the (similarly fast) 50s that time already offered. Immensely usable for a press photographer, who´s goal is first to catch the moment, second to win the beauty contest. With that in mind, Nikon designed this exceptional lens, and the pro´s took the two clicks down with gladness. _________________ Cheers, Gerhard |
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