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NewStuff
Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 847 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject: Water Balloons |
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NewStuff wrote:
A little backstory to fill you in. Me and a colleague have a friendly rivalry in work. Suddenly, out of nowhere another lad ups and buys a 7D, and now thinks he's the best photographer in the world. To try to gently show him it's not quite that easy, the first colleague set him a challenge to capture a popped water balloon.
Now, somehow, this has been turned into a competition (Still friendly) between the 3 of us, but I'm not sure if I have the kit to get this shot. I have a 550EX which has a decent strobing ability, and I hope it would do it. I can't see how to sync things up though.
Any suggestions? I don't want to outright cheat, but pointers in the right direction would be most helpful.
My main idea was to set this at dusk/night, trigger a long exposure and manually strobe while popping the balloon (with a catapult with a sharp object in it). I planned to shoot on the Pentacon 300/4 to lose the background and keep the camera out of the waters reach.
Am I barking up the wrong tree with this? _________________ Too many to list. |
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my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
I have never shoot anything like this but here is what I think.
With correct timing, perhaps you can produce nicer photos with long exposure but my thinking is it should be easier to get the shot with continuous shots thus exposure should not be too long. _________________
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NewStuff
Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 847 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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NewStuff wrote:
Yes, I would like to sync up at say 1/1000 or faster, but I can't see how to sync the Camera (EOS 400D), at a faster speed than 1/200, hence the Long Exposure idea. _________________ Too many to list. |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
If it is dark enough your strobe affectively becomes the shutter.
A strobe blast is faster than 1/2000. If the shutter is open, the strobe will "stop" any object that is in the frame. No need to sync higher speeds. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I confirm what Andy says, a shutter speed of 1/200 will only catch whatever light can be catched at that speed. This means that if the ambient is dark enough not to impress the sensor significantly at 1/200, the speed of the strobe becomes irrelevant, the camera will record only what the strobe will lighten plus whatever ambient light can come through at 1/200 (in a dark studio, that means none).
Remember to measure the light with a flash-compatible hand meter before shooting, because you will have to set the aperture (or the ISO, or both) accordingly.
You will have to use manual mode, of course. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Jieffe
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 754 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Jieffe wrote:
You need a sound-activated trigger. I googled this cheap trick, maybe I'll try it later |
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NewStuff
Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 847 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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NewStuff wrote:
Thanks for the advice. I hope to have a play about in the next few day, and see if I can capture anything worthwhile. I will have to play with this outside, and the Other Half has vetoed this shoot inside the house. _________________ Too many to list. |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Did you ever do this?
I have been helping someone capture dancers. A flash duration of 1/2000+ and no ambient source would freeze subjects leaving out many studio lights and instead relying on a few flash guns I know to be able to obtain this (Nikon SB-28s and Vivitar 285HV in my case). _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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NewStuff
Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 847 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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NewStuff wrote:
No. I borrowed my flashgun (550EX) to someone to do something similar, and the idiot positioned the flash *under* the balloon. I'm still waiting for payment for it so I can replace it. _________________ Too many to list. |
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
The way this is commonly done is to have a trigger delay circuit and a pair of relays/solenoids that set off both the balloon and the camera/flash at the right interval to each other. _________________ Sevo |
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