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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: reala snapshots Reply with quote
I try the distagon with reala
I scanned by photographing the negatives with a bellow
Then I processed the files in vuescan








PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What Distagon poilu, the 1.4/35?
Some pictures (like cat) seem perfect in every way.
In other pictures there seems to be a sort of "colour burn" effect and perhaps a little too much saturation for my taste (like#2).


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like all them, Poilu, even with the saturation Orio mentions... Adds some dramatism. The small green plant at bottom right on pic #2 is a good reference to the natural colours.

Good work!.

Jes.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
#2 is quiet extraordinary, great series.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
#2 and #5 are my preferred even if they seems more like velvia 50 than reala... or maybe exactly for that reason Laughing
Jokes apart great shots and great eye for composition and light.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks Jes, Alessandro & Attila Smile

Orio wrote:
In other pictures there seems to be a sort of "colour burn" effect and perhaps a little too much saturation for my taste


It is my first try of scanning by photographing a negative
I used vuescan, this soft is tricky to tune and it doesn't have saturation control
I just replaced #2 it with a pp version (refresh page to get it)
yes it is the 35 1.4, I tried it wide open but this is less usable on FF (less dof)


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Don't get me wrong, poilu, I too like the pictures. I didn't comment on them because the pictures seem more or less the same that you have shown the other day in digital form.

I think the result of what you did is interesting. Perhaps more difficult to control than scanning, but it seems to give the photos a "character". Which is a god thing, as long as you can control it.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Don't get me wrong, poilu

No problem, we post to learn and I am also against artificial saturation.

Orio wrote:
the pictures seem more or less the same that you have shown the other day in digital form

yes I tried the same shots to compare digital with film
when I review #2 in digital it is evident that saturation was too high
I will scan with my polaroid slide scanner but I have to found my scsii card

I also wanted to show that photographing slide can be a good alternative to a flat scanner


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
poilu wrote:

I also wanted to show that photographing slide can be a good alternative to a flat scanner


More "lively" and less sterile than scanner, yes.
I like your results.
I may try this technique myself. Thanks for opening a road.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
These are nice Poilu. The scanning technique does indeed add some interesting character. You know the last one with the girl is really my favorite. The composition/framing, line and contrasting elements make a super fun shot. I hope you are happy with this one. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm surprised no one mentioned #3 my favorite.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like all of these, with 2 and the last being faves. Very nice, Poilu!

Bill


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Schnauzer wrote:
I'm surprised no one mentioned #3 my favorite.


What is that, bathroom humor? Laughing

I like #4!
I must have plain tastes. I find some of the others to be too colorful. Shocked (I guess 'color burn' as Orio put it, is a good description). Compositions are all top notch! Thanks for the 'retro' scanning, I also have a slide copying attachment for my Nikon bellows (but no slides).


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The little girl... shes does have the blue tongue from candy?


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great shots !!! See, I told you... wide an fast lenses can create that 3D like effect. I like thin DOF.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sunshine wrote:
I hope you are happy with this one

Yes I am quite happy with the results.
My last try on negative was disastrous with most oof and this series look more promising.
Many here shots film and we must all push in this direction
Digital is a bad drug and we miss a great part of photography

Thanks Ron, Bill and Mike

Yes Bruce, it was a colored candy

Cosmin wrote:
wide an fast lenses can create that 3D like effect

I think film help a lot for 3D effect.
3D is almost always present with film where in digital it is more a matter of luck to get it.
Fast lenses can create nice atmosphere as long as the bokeh is nice.
The distagon is very good and even a missed focus is usable where other lenses would give unpleasant result


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
poilu wrote:

Cosmin wrote:
wide an fast lenses can create that 3D like effect

I think film help a lot for 3D effect.
3D is almost always present with film where in digital it is more a matter of luck to get it.


This is because a lot of photographers don't fully "develop" digital files and are happy with in camera Jpgs (which are the "polaroids" of digital) or simple raw conversion.

For example the AA filter of a digital camera lowers heavily the microcontrast of an image and this has to be recovered in post production.

Digital is not a drug, it's more a beast that needs to be tamed.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
this is the conversion with silverfast, a more competent software
it take directly raw file and need only few steps to tune
maybe more saturation would help but this is the default one
the vuescan version look kitsch but experimentation is always worth Rolling Eyes



PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice !!!


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Very nice !!!


Yes, you are! Laughing
(Thought I'd do a Jules-type post. Wink )

Poilu, would like to see your bellows setup for taking pics of these negs.

Bill


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bill wrote:
Poilu, would like to see your bellows setup for taking pics of these negs

I use a contax bellow but any bellow is ok
The negative could even be photographed on a light table



here is a sample


& 100% crop not sharpened, no noise reduction or anything


of course it is a bellow and every magnification is possible


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cool setup, Poilu!

Bill
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