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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:52 am Post subject: EdixaMat A.Schacht Ulm Travenar 2.8/90mm Portrait-Lens |
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hinnerker wrote:
Here is another old gem from 1962/63 from germany for you
The A.Schacht Ulm Travenar 2.8/90mm, developed by L.Bertele, was seen first on the market in 1962/63 (Information from I-Net)
A. Schacht did work for CZJ from 1913-1919. From 1919-1926 for ICA AG, later Zeiss Ikon AG until 1939. 1939-1946 he worked for Steinheil Munich.
In 1948 he founded his own company. Lens building ended in 1970.
This is the lens... with some very interesting details.
The lens was a gift from a good old friend of mine.
Should be a Sonnar type (sorry, no scheme found)
It has the old fashioned "Zebra-look" i love sometimes..
One of the impressive details is the 16 blade aperture... for an ideal circular of highlights in the bokeh.
Another very impressive detail is the mechanical construction.
There is a tension ring for opening the aperture and an extra wire release connector on the lens for closing the aperture at the shot.
The lens is nearly uncoated. A light blue shimmer was removed by myself because the lens has some problems behind the front element. Now its clean but has some small scratches from the cleaning.
No worries about that.. the lens does a fantastic job..
@ f2.8, EOS 5D MKII
And a crop out of it, showing the focuspoint..
Streetlife at 2.8...
and a crop ...
The Travenar has a very nice Bokeh and a near perfect colorendering.
With the 16 blades the transient from fore- to background is warm colored an smooth, best of all lenses i have..
@f5.6, EOS 5D MK II, nearfield
Very saturated colors..
and a lovely bokeh..
A real nice lens in M42 Mount... highly recommanded.
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Henry, this is an amazing piece of glass! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Wow, what a fantastic old lens with lovely bokeh! Thanks for sharing _________________ Graham - Moderator
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Abbazz
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 1098 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Abbazz wrote:
Superb photos, thank you for sharing them. This lens is really outstanding and the bokeh is wonderfully smooth.
Cheers!
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Looks good when stopped down a bit. Plenty of saturation. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
oh my! i am smitten! thanks henry! _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
Amazing lens! Thanks for the samples Henry!
Must be superb for portraits too. |
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mflex-on
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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mflex-on wrote:
indianadinos showed the lens already here http://forum.mflenses.com/new-lens-on-the-block-schacht-travenar-90-2-8-t14210,highlight,travenar.html
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and I presented (one of) the predecessor(s), the Travenar 2.8/85 in Praktina mount just here: http://forum.mflenses.com/schacht-muenchen-travenar-2-8-85-praktina-bayonet-t19964,highlight,travenar.html
I want to add some new shots:
Sharp even wide open, the 85 Travenar lens is from the early 50’s but has a very good coating, a red ♢ |
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
Kram wrote: |
Amazing lens! Thanks for the samples Henry!
Must be superb for portraits too. |
Yes, this pics are from a prearrangement with my wife for a modell shooting with her girlfriends..
And outside, some days ago..
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
goodness gracious, a fine combination ... _________________ Paul
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
Small correction.. after searching some informations, it seems to be an
Ernostar type lens and not a Sonnar type...
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16651 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
great shots using a great lens indeed!
You model is pretty one btw. _________________ Klaus - Admin
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16651 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
btw. the lens design is very similar to the (rare) Enna 2.8/90mm,
also a very fine performer! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
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http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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mflex-on
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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mflex-on wrote:
Ok - as I now can believe that this Travenar is an Ernostar type the pictures become even better.
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Stunning quality ! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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mflex-on
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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mflex-on wrote:
This Travenar-Design by Ludwig Bertele could be called a "simplified Tele-Sonnar" design and can be found in the CZJ 4/135 and 3.5/135 as well. Classic Sonnar should have "three cemented lenses".
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
This 2.8/90 looks really good. Anyone know if the 4/90 Travenar is the same design? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I've got a Travegar 100 / 3.3 which can be razor sharp. It has possibly the same multi bladed aperture and wonderful bokeh. But it's a lens that sometimes fails me, and I don't know why. I should use it more often and see if I can get results like this. This 90mm does look very impressive. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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paulhofseth
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: thewes says 6 element ? |
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paulhofseth wrote:
I vaguely recall that the Alpa book by Lothar Thewes states that the Schacht 2,8`90 was a 6-element design- I will try to dig up the book as well as the lens & post results.
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paulusje
Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Posts: 16 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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paulusje wrote:
I have the later version of this beautiful lens with only 6 diaphragm blades .
It's a beautiful lens, very sharp and the colours are fantastic. The only slight issue for me is purple fringing which can be quite strong wideopen.
This is at ƒ4 with an extension tube:
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
Wow Paul, beautiful image!
Now I want that lens! |
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JohnBar
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JohnBar wrote:
I just won one of these, the older 16L version, cant wait to try it _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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serkol
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serkol wrote:
I am also waiting for a parcel with 16L version |
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valjo
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valjo wrote:
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