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gcrimmins
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 Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:02 am Post subject: Medium format lens on 35mm camera? |
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gcrimmins wrote:
I'm wondering how well medium format lenses work on 35mm film and digital cameras. Has anyone here tried this? Most of the comments I can find on the subject on the Internet seem to be from people who have never tried it, but have strong opinions anyway. Some people say it works very well because you are only using the sharpest part of the lens. Others say it works poorly because medium format lenses supposedly aren't are sharp as 35mm lenses.
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patrickth
Joined: 25 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:09 am Post subject: |
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patrickth wrote:
Hi Geoff,
I love mine. I started with just a Mamiya 645 and the 80mm lens on my Nikkormat with an adapter and it was so nice for me that I quickly got a 55mm, 150mm and 210mm and am looking for a 35mm lens.
Here are a couple of examples:
http://www.pbase.com/patrickth/image/94305038
http://www.pbase.com/patrickth/image/95701706 |
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Athiril
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Location: Melbourne, Vic, Australia
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Athiril wrote:
MF lenses don't need to be as sharp as 35mm lenses to get more detail from the same field of view, since to get the same field of view they use a longer focal length and greater imaging area.
In any, I can't think of any MF lenses that wont work on a 35mm or APS-C camera, as all the examples I can think of have much greater registration distances to the imaging plane than 35mm and APS-C bodies, meaning all you need is an adapter to make up the difference in registration distances  |
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Farside
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Medium format lens on 35mm camera? |
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Farside wrote:
| gcrimmins wrote: |
| I'm wondering how well medium format lenses work on 35mm film and digital cameras. Has anyone here tried this? Most of the comments I can find on the subject on the Internet seem to be from people who have never tried it, but have strong opinions anyway. Some people say it works very well because you are only using the sharpest part of the lens. Others say it works poorly because medium format lenses supposedly aren't are sharp as 35mm lenses. |
Opinions are like assholes - but ask anyone who's actually done it and you get an affirmative answer. Some of us here do it and are happy enough with the results.
As a starting point, try a Pentacon Six lens with an adapter for your camera - you'll be surprised at the outcome. I suggest the P6 because the lenses for that system are a fair bit cheaper but every bit as good as the more expensive MedFrmt systems, especially if you buy Zeiss. Most of the Russian P6 glass is good too, but beware of buying a Kiev 88 lens as the mount is problematic.
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have all Carl Zeiss Jena lenses in P6 mount, they are good on 35mm as any 35mm lens what made by Carl Zeiss Jena.
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ChrisLilley
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Geoff,
I love mine. I started with just a Mamiya 645 and the 80mm lens on my Nikkormat with an adapter and it was so nice for me that I quickly got a 55mm, 150mm and 210mm and am looking for a 35mm lens.
Here are a couple of examples:
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patrickth
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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patrickth wrote:
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| patrickth wrote: |
Hi Geoff,
I love mine. I started with just a Mamiya 645 and the 80mm lens on my Nikkormat with an adapter and it was so nice for me that I quickly got a 55mm, 150mm and 210mm and am looking for a 35mm lens.
Here are a couple of examples:
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Thanks, I could see it on the edit but not on the post. Was wondering whats up with that.................... |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Great examples! Many thanks for sharing! Nice to see you here!
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patrickh
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Welcome patrickth
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MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
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Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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patrickth
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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patrickth wrote:
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Welcome patrickth
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Thanks to all. If you go to that same place on pbase and go to the emmabee folder, all of those were taken with Mamiya mf lens on nikkormat bodies. |
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gcrimmins
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Location: Moscow, Idaho, USA
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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gcrimmins wrote:
Thank you to everyone for the replies and to patrickth for the photos. It looks like MF lenses work well on a 35mm cameras. It's at least worth the cost of an adapter so I can give it a try. I'll have to post some photos after I try it. Thanks,
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patrickh
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I have a Zeiss Sonnar 180/2.8 in P6 format which I use on my nikkors with an adapter - works like a charm.
patrickh
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M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
I had too a CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8 in P6 mount.
Beautiful optic.
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