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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: Spiratone 135mm f2.8 |
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Kathmandu wrote:
Spiratone 135mm f2.8 lens- zebra body,and originally on Miranda screw mount successfully converted to Minolta AF/Sony AF;via modified T-Mount for Minolta AF.
Images from local Farmers Market:
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:12 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
I've came real close to buying this lens several times.I really need to start a Sankor collection. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
This differs from the slimmer 135mm Sankors that I have seen-so I could not tell you if it a Sankor with certainty. Spiratone bought lenses from different manufacturers, and I am curious as to the original manufacturer also.
I have not seen a single Sankor labeled lens that quite looks like this.
1. This is thicker in circumference-larger aperture size.
2. Heavier
3. More solidly built
4.The preset rings are of different design
5. 16 bladed aperture.
I have however seen similar lenses labeled Bittco, Coligon, Spectra Coligon,Accura etc but not Sankor. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:25 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Bittco Super Vemar, Spectra Coligon, Accura, Unitel were made by Sankor. The Sankor version of this lens I believe is the Mayfair Sankor.
Your lens has:
1) Sankor style chrome ring
2) Sankor style appeture markings
3) I'm pretty sure the serial number ends in E which is typical
marking for most, but not all Sankor made lenses.
Beautiful lens by the way. I like the bokeh of this lens also.
I believe there was different levels of quality on Sankor lenses,
this being one of there better lenses. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
You are right about the "E" after the serial number. The chrome ring seems definately different,and I did not compare the aperture markings. Its nice to know who the manufacturers were-but its a uphill road with older Japanese lenses regarding any documentation and records .
I am attaching a picture of the Mayfair Sankor (the only type I have seen in the 135mm range with Sankor written on it-I hear it produces great images)on the left, and the Spiratone I have on the right.
Thanks for following me through with this. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:27 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
There really seems to be different levels of fit and finish. I've seen Spiratones that look more like the Mayfair Sankor that you posted.
Your Spiratone really looks like the Bittco Super Vemar.
Click here to see on Ebay _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
walter g wrote: |
There really seems to be different levels of fit and finish. I've seen Spiratones that look more like the Mayfair Sankor that you posted.
Your Spiratone really looks like the Bittco Super Vemar.
Click here to see on Ebay |
I can understand Spiratone having different lenses-they bought and sold from lots of manufacturers. The Spiratone you're refering to is definately in the line of the Mayfair Sankor.
You know where I can find a image of a lens that says Sankor that looks like heavier , well like the Bittco Super Vemar lens you have a link to. I wish there was more information out there. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:42 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
No I wish I did. I just started saving Sankor images after I got my Sankor made Sun 135 3.5.
But when one comes up again I will save it and post it also.
The Mayfair Sankor you posted, is a little different then what a call the lower end range. The ones I've seen like this have a chrome ring not silver.
So this must be the lowest end? _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
It would be nice to see Sankor named lens like this- thanks, and I will keep my nose out for one too. Its always nice to base things on written documents or images. The web is wild with information and peoples own conclusions ; on makes and models of older Japanese lenses-since the history is pretty sketchy IMHO.
I have also seen some Kyoei, Acal , Petri lenses in the same heavy design.
Take her easy.
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Sculptur
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: Sankor 135 |
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Sculptur wrote:
Been searching on Sankor lenses and of course ran into mflenses
I have a Sankor lens, but I also have a Fodor lens on the way which looks almost exactly like your Spiratone although the bottom ring is chrome.
Fodor was a Dutch Company, I learned on the net, who imported different lenses. I also have a Fodor in T-mount, which is the smallest 135mm lens I have.
I will post a picture when it arrives. Looks like a lovely lens and more solid then the Sankor I have.
Michiel
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Awsome samples of that lens, thanks for sharing !
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Sculptur
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Sculptur wrote:
Here are three pics with my Sankor lens, shown above.
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agent_cooper
Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Posts: 139 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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agent_cooper wrote:
WOW......superb fotos!
now I know why people talk about Spiratone.
Could it be this lenses have low CA? And you shot mostly open? _________________
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Sculptur
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Sculptur wrote:
Thanks agent_cooper
Yes I did shoot mostly wide open. I did not notice much CA using this lens.
The funny thing is on the lens barrel it says 2.7 as lowest aperture and 2.8 on top of the lens.
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
It seems to be a fairly low contrast lens or is it the way the images are processed. It probably just needs a hood.
Anyway, contrast aside (which is fixable for digi images) I like the bokeh and colours it produces. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Sculptur
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sculptur wrote:
So here are the three babys I talked about. On the right my new Fodor 135/3.5 lens.
In the middle the Sankor 135/2.8 and on the left the tiny Fodor 135/2.8. It looks bigger because at the bottom I put on a Canon FD to T-mount adapter.
Tomorrow I will, if there is any light available in these dark days, take some test shots. It is a very solidly build lens with 14 blades and very beautiful, I think.
The other two lenses have actually 16 blades.
The photo is shot with camera flash and a Isco Westron, which came together with a Meyer Domiplan 50/2.8 and the Fodor lens for € 35,--.
The Isco can only be used wide open because the aperture ring is stuck.
Michiel
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Sculptur
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sculptur wrote:
Today I had a chance to do some testshots with the Fodor 135/3.5
Really nice lens to use, a bit on the heavy side, but who doesn't want something solid in the hand.
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Those shots look over exposed by one stop. There is missing detail in the person's face in the last pic. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Olivier
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Hi Katmandu.
Very nice samples of this lens.
I like colours, sharpness and contrast.
Michiel,
Thank you for these pictures.
Could you make specific topics for the Fodors and the Westron, so that we could find them easily in future with the search engine ?
Thanks.
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Sculptur
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Sculptur wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Those shots look over exposed by one stop. There is missing detail in the person's face in the last pic. |
I don't think they are over exposed but have uncorrectable highlights in the white areas due to the winterlow fierce shining sun + the extra light reflected by trhe water.
Michiel |
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Sculptur
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Sculptur wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Hi Katmandu.
Very nice samples of this lens.
I like colours, sharpness and contrast.
Michiel,
Thank you for these pictures.
Could you make specific topics for the Fodors and the Westron, so that we could find them easily in future with the search engine ?
Thanks.
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Thanks Olivier for the tip.
I will make an Fodor topic later as I would like to put some samples of the smaller Fodor lens I have in it as well.
Michiel |
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Lovely samples. Quite an underdog IMHO. And cool choice for Nikon users since no glass adapter required. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I have theses too. The 3.5 is a "Carson" and the 2.8 is a Spiratone
These are heavy well built lenses with quite good IQ. I love the retro zebra design.
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