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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:30 pm Post subject: Best 24mm |
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Rick1779 wrote:
Doesn't matter mount, I'm just wondering which are the best 24mm on the market |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
You'll be hard pushed to pick a best from any of the main makers 24mms, they are all great. The Canon FD 2/24 has a very high reputation but I doubt it's appreciably better than the Konica Hexanon 2.8/24 or Nikkon 2.8/24 that I have. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
I actually know that can be a tricky question, but since I've discovered that 24mm is my favorite focal length to use with my Nex (I actually have the Pentax A 24/2.8 ) I was just wondering a bit on different possibilities excluding the espensive AF Zeiss in E-Mount |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
The zeiss 2,8/25 is very good. Also the big czj one.
The hexanon is another good lens. Prone to flare like not mc lens.
I hear good things about the m42 takumar 24 lens.
Leica/minolta, another nice. |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Why don't you get a few 24mm to play with?
they are all good. of course, some are better in some areas.
canon fd 24/1.4,
konica 24/2.8
nikon ais 24/2.8, 24/2 has interesting bokeh.
CZJ 25/4 flektogon, close focus, contrast colors and razor sharp
Kiron 24/2
Ensinor 24/2.8
Tamron ad 24/2.5
Yashica 24/2.8
Olympus OM 24/2.8...
then some good zooms that cover 24mm as well...
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
imo the f2.8 Rokkor, Nikkor, Zuiko and Pentax are all in about same level though there are minor differences. The Rokkor might be best but my version is the older, heavier one and I prefer small and light, the Zuiko is smallest and lightest with the best corners but mine is the early non MC version and doesn't like direct strong light. Photos taken with the Nikkor look real neat but do have the most distortion, my early version also is heavy, I ended up mostly using the Pentax, love it's handling and though not outstanding it performs flawlessly. Lately got a MC version of the Zuiko, whenever I need the speed it might take over the Pentax's spot, but now mostly I use a tiny Color Skopar f4/25 which most likely is the best of the bunch _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
http://forum.mflenses.com/biogon-2-8-25-carl-zeiss-zm-sample-t58807.html _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
the zeiss biogon is truly impressive |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I have the ais Nikkor 24/2.8 and it's sharper than the Tamron 24/2.5, Hoya 24/2.8 (Tokina) and Vivitar 24/2.8 (also Tokina) lenses that I've also owned, in the centre and corners. The Nikkor 24/2 wasn't as good. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
CANON FD 24 F2
The best of the best..
tf _________________ Flickr.com |
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Phenix jc
Joined: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 398 Location: France
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Phenix jc wrote:
I've decided to make a direct comparison between all the 24mm that I have ( )
I have just begun;
f 2.8 : Hanimex (Makinon is the same), Zuiko, Nikkor
The Nikkor is Outstanding !
The Zuiko is clearly not at the level : What a disappointment, I'm a zuiko's fan ; Perhaps my copy...
The Hanimex is the worst wide open, getting better once you stopp down
f 2 : Canon nFD, Zuiko, Nikkor + Kiron/Vivitar : More to come. (Anyway, the first 3 are truely excellents)
f 1.4 : Canon nFD : This small lens is clearly the best at f 1.4.
Whatever, I've developped a special relationship with the Nikkor 24/2.8. Period. _________________ "Plonger les choses dans la lumière, c'est les plonger dans l'infini" Léonard De Vinci
f/1.2 club Zuiko : 50/1.2, 55/1.2 Rokkor : 50/1.2, 58/1.2 Nikkor : 50/1.2, 55/1.2 Third Party : Porst(Fujinon-X) 50/1.2, Porst 55/1.2 Canon : S 50/1.2, nFD 50/1.2, FL 55/1.2, R 58/1.2, nFD 85/1.2 Hexanon : 57/1.2 Nokton : 50/1.1 |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I love my Nikkor 2.8/24 too. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Victor Nguyen
Joined: 02 Aug 2012 Posts: 241
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Victor Nguyen wrote:
yeah I have a nikkor 24mm ais. Sharp lens for the price. _________________ Nikkor 24mm f2.8 ai, Rokinon/Samyang 35mm f 1.4, Nikkor 55 f2.8 micro ais, Rokinon/Samyang 85mm f 1.4, Pentacon 135 "bokeh monster" f 2.8, Contax Zeiss 180 f 2.8 |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:17 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Sharp lens for any price, there aren't many better than it and they all cost a lot more.
Honestly, the Nikkor 24mm lens is more capable than many of us would be able to exploit, so to take better pictures, rather than a better lens, better technique is more likely of benefit. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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anscochrome
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 115 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:41 am Post subject: |
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anscochrome wrote:
I have a 24mm F 2.8 Canon EF lens, and a 24mm F 2.8 C/Y Yashica ML lens. Is the Yashica better? Nope. I think the Canon, which was made starting in 1987 benefitted from technology that the Yashica did not have. I think we can easily fall into the trap that, just because a lens is older and manual focus, it is better. I think extremes of focal lengths are great benefactors of newer technology-for example-I have a 300mm F 4.0 SMC Takumar, but in no way do I think it can compare to a 300mm F 4.0 Canon EF lens. I don't go out of my way to use a MF lens just because it is MF, to do otherwise is cutting your nose off to spite your face:) |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Sharp lens for any price, there aren't many better than it and they all cost a lot more.
Honestly, the Nikkor 24mm lens is more capable than many of us would be able to exploit, so to take better pictures, rather than a better lens, better technique is more likely of benefit. |
+1 _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
If mount (and register distance) is no issue, but price is (thus excluding expensive
lenses such as the new ZM Biogon or ZF Distagon lenses), then I would recommend either
the Contax Distagon 2.8/25 in Contax/Yashica bayonet mount or the
Voigtlaender Snapshot-Skopar 4/25 in L39 thread mount.
About Contax Distagon: it offers great detail, colour, and beautiful microcontrast
You can find it used around 350-400 Euros in the MM version (the more recent version
which features better corner performance). If you use a crop camera, such as NEX,
corners will not be a problem so you can buy the AE version, which is possible to find
cheaper (around 250 Euros).
As for the Snapshot-Skopar:
If you use a live viewfinder camera (such as NEX), the fact that the lens is not
rangefinder-coupled will not bother you at all - you will check the focus in live view.
This lens used price ranges from 300 to 400 Eur with the 25mm view finder, but
it is also found without the viewfinder, and in that case, you may find it even for less.
The image quality -being a non-retrofocal wide lens- is probably going to be better
than most SLR lenses of the same focal lenght, and on crop cameras (like the NEX)
the only issue of the lens (corner falloff wide open) will not be a problem because you
will only use the centre of the lens. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Nikonshooter
Joined: 12 Nov 2012 Posts: 228 Location: Spokane, Washington
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Nikonshooter wrote:
I have the Ensinor 24mm f2.8 canon mount so it's useless to me I get a canon body one day or save up for a Pentax K5IIs.
Since I use Nikon for now I would get a nikkor lens. _________________ D7000
Nikon 50mm E F1.8
Vivitar 70-210mm F3.5 x4
Rokinon 28mm F2.8
Nikon 35mm E F2.5
Jupiter 9 (1954)
SMC Takumar 28mm 3.5
Super Takumar 200mm 3.5
SMC TAKUMAR 135MM 2.5
MamiyaRZ67
Sekor RZ 110 mm f/2.8
Sekor RZ 150 mm f/3.5
Sekor RZ 180 mm f/4.5 |
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Brian Y
Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Posts: 6 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Brian Y wrote:
24 mm is also my favourite focal length. I did an informal test of my 24's at f4 with my Nex5N with EVF, the ranking of my 24's are shown below, but yours might be different since they are old/used lenses. I was too lazy to check for other f settings since F4 is the normal widest aperture that I use. I was surprised by the order but that how they were.
1. Sigma Super Wide 2 AF f2.8 (Pentax KAF mount)
2. Miranda f2.8 Macro (Pentax KA mount)
3. Nikkor f2.8 Ais
4. Panagor f2.5 (Yashica ML mount)
5. Tamron AD2 f2.5
6. X-Fujica f2.8 EBC |
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TSherman
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 9 Location: BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:51 am Post subject: |
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TSherman wrote:
16:9.net did an amazingly thorough 24mm comparison the "24mm world cup" crowning the zuiko. Its a beautiful little lens, definitely the smallest of the full frame 24s. It even stacks up pretty well against canon's 24 1.4 That said I recently sold my copy because I hated the ultra short focus throw so much. |
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RTI
Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 282 Location: Moldova, Chisinau
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:19 am Post subject: |
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RTI wrote:
If you need a good performer, I'd seriously take a look at the new Samyang 24/f1.4 _________________ Cameras: Canon 5DIII, Zorki-4, Canon AE-1
MF:Rokkor 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 58/1.4, Yashica ML 50/1.7, M39 Jupiter-9 (silver 1955), Zuiko 35-70/3.6
AF: Sigma Art 35/1.4, Tamron 24-70/2.8 VC, |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:37 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Brian Y wrote: |
24 mm is also my favourite focal length. I did an informal test of my 24's at f4 with my Nex5N with EVF, the ranking of my 24's are shown below, but yours might be different since they are old/used lenses. I was too lazy to check for other f settings since F4 is the normal widest aperture that I use. I was surprised by the order but that how they were.
1. Sigma Super Wide 2 AF f2.8 (Pentax KAF mount)
2. Miranda f2.8 Macro (Pentax KA mount)
3. Nikkor f2.8 Ais
4. Panagor f2.5 (Yashica ML mount)
5. Tamron AD2 f2.5
6. X-Fujica f2.8 EBC |
OK, so we're anticipated to be surprised your Super-Wide was best? Well, some posters here likely are surprised. The Super-Wide, and it's companion Mini-Wide, are not lenses highly praised by some participants here. I like the Sigma "Wide" series lenses myself. I'm not in least surprised by your outcome.
I do envy your Super-Wide ownership, though. Those lenses are darned expensive. I look for them every day, and there are Super-Wides offered for sale nearly every day. But the prices are stratospheric! You appear to me not alone in your discovery of Super-Wide quality and desirability. |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
If you can afford it get the E-mount Zeiss.
From this focal length i only got the Pentax A110 24mm and Cosina 2.8/24 - the Cosina is better but flares if you shoot against the sun without a hood. I'm currently selling it btw among with lots of other lenses. Not the perfect lens if you compare it with Zeiss but not bad for the price. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Why are you guys surprised the Sigma super wide II is a good lens 3-4 years ago, here and at other forums they were saying it's a hidden gem....so I got mine for £8 _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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parabellumfoto
Joined: 06 Apr 2013 Posts: 413 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:42 am Post subject: |
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parabellumfoto wrote:
Nikonshooter wrote: |
I have the Ensinor 24mm f2.8 canon mount so it's useless to me I get a canon body one day or save up for a Pentax K5IIs.
Since I use Nikon for now I would get a nikkor lens. |
A little off topic but my curiosity is getting the better of me.
Q. How do you get you 200mm Super Takumar working on a Nikon camera? _________________ Minolta MC Rokkor f1.4 50mm
Minolta MD Zoom Macro 35-105mm f3.5-4.5
Nikon Nikkor 50mm F2
Nippon Kogaku Japan Nikkor-S Auto 5cm F2
Nippon Kogaku Japan Nikkor-Q Auto 135mm F2.8
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 35mm F1.8G
http://www.parabellumfoto.com/ |
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