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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: nikon F nikkor-s auto nippon kogaku 50mm/1.4 Reply with quote
nikon nikkor-s auto nippon kogaku 50/1.4

got this a few weeks ago to use on my NEX


1.4 on Sony NEX-5 by nes☆, on Flickr


DSC03346 by nes☆, on Flickr


DSC03348 by nes☆, on Flickr


DSC03349 by nes☆, on Flickr

it's pretty soft wide open @ 1.4

DSC03114 by nes☆, on Flickr

but stop it down a bit and it's pretty sharp @ 4

DSC03115 by nes☆, on Flickr

a few more samples:

DSC03159 by nes☆, on Flickr


DSC03259 by nes☆, on Flickr


DSC03252 by nes☆, on Flickr


DSC03247 by nes☆, on Flickr

edit: oops...thanks for moving it for me, attila.

Last edited by joy division on Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:21 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is 'Best of Lenses' Gallery not a lens review section, I did move it to Manual Focus Lenses.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: nikon F nikkor-s auto nippon kogaku 50mm/1.4 Reply with quote
joy division wrote:
nikon nikkor-s auto nippon kogaku 50/1.4

got this a few weeks ago to use on my NEX

it's pretty soft wide open @ 1.4


Yep, as I have said here.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wasn't that the one with a Sonnar lens design?


PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
Wasn't that the one with a Sonnar lens design?

I know 105mm is Sonnar design from this type of lens.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
Wasn't that the one with a Sonnar lens design?


What do you mean? Most 50mm f/1.4 lenses are of overall similar construction, but of course not of equal quality. Progress occurs.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Arrrggghhh, are we REALLY going to go down this overtrodden road again, Fluffpuppy? - "Progress occurs." I think we all know that by now so let's just enjoy seeing how good the older lenses were (and still are).

Joy Division - It's a great old lens, ignore anyone who harps on about how much better newer ones might be Wink . I don't think it's as soft as you might be thinkng. Looking at the "original" of the picture immediately after the helicopter ones, there's actually some pleasing detail there. And I like the out of focus effect too. And if you look at the helicopter pic wide open, the bits that are in focus are actually quite sharp. Close range and f1.4 leaves no margin even for the smallest of errors in focusing. It seems you settled the focus on the bits of the model that were closest to the lens . . . I have problems even using a tripod Smile


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
scsambrook wrote:
Arrrggghhh, are we REALLY going to go down this overtrodden road again, Fluffpuppy? - "Progress occurs." I think we all know that by now so let's just enjoy seeing how good the older lenses were (and still are).

Joy Division - It's a great old lens, ignore anyone who harps on about how much better newer ones might be Wink . I don't think it's as soft as you might be thinkng. Looking at the "original" of the picture immediately after the helicopter ones, there's actually some pleasing detail there. And I like the out of focus effect too. And if you look at the helicopter pic wide open, the bits that are in focus are actually quite sharp. Close range and f1.4 leaves no margin even for the smallest of errors in focusing. It seems you settled the focus on the bits of the model that were closest to the lens . . . I have problems even using a tripod Smile


Well even the poster said it, and I know it's true. The 60s Nikkors are best left in the past. I used them (a lot) so I know, first-hand.

Here's some info that is quite valuable:

http://www.espacesteve.com/2010/06/lens-review-for-dslr-video-nikon-50mm.html


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
Wasn't that the one with a Sonnar lens design?

The NIKKOR - The Thousand and One Nights site (Tale 44) describes this lens as a 7/5 Gaussian design. It also describes some of the limitations of the lens.

The same site (Tale 34) describes the NIKKOR-H･C 5cm f/2 as a 6/3 Sonnar design.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sichko wrote:
kds315* wrote:
Wasn't that the one with a Sonnar lens design?

The NIKKOR - The Thousand and One Nights site (Tale 44) describes this lens as a 7/5 Gaussian design. It also describes some of the limitations of the lens.

The same site (Tale 34) describes the NIKKOR-H･C 5cm f/2 as a 6/3 Sonnar design.


The design dates from 1962, and was replaced in 1976 with a new (much improved) design. As I have repeatedly pointed out, the lens is rather primitive by contemporary standards.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
scsambrook wrote:
Arrrggghhh, are we REALLY going to go down this overtrodden road again, Fluffpuppy? - "Progress occurs." I think we all know that by now so let's just enjoy seeing how good the older lenses were (and still are).


+ infinity

No-one wants to read a re-run of fluffpuppy's tirades against Nikon, old Japanese lenses etc etc

Please shut up Fluffpuppy and let joy division enjoy his new purchase.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A fine lens, joy division! Looking forward to your photos.



PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
the lens is rather primitive by contemporary standards.

I think you miss the point on why we enjoy the older lenses so much Smile


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
FluffPuppy wrote:
the lens is rather primitive by contemporary standards.


blasphemer! Razz


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
*** ORDER CALL ***

Could we please leave out emotions and get back to the topic of this thread!

I will clean up this thread later and remove such contributions that are unrelated to the OP's contribution.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have this lens, I did have the coated version as well, but sold that. My findings are similar to yours. Sadly I have so many 50mm lenses and this one is a way from the top of the pile so it sees little use.. The build quality is top notch though.

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Please shut up Fluffpuppy and let joy division enjoy his new purchase.
Easy fellah. That's a bit strong; try `please refrain'. Wink


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
FluffPuppy take as last warning... if you can't change I will kick you out from this forum, you did same just week before I did warn you , you said OK, now you did start again , recognize it this unacceptable behavior here!


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry if I was a bit strong, just trying to nip it in the bud, didn't mean it offensively, was just being direct.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Sorry if I was a bit strong, just trying to nip it in the bud, didn't mean it offensively, was just being direct.

I know , but people interpret it on different way , next time please say it politely and left other job to moderators.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, my bad, sorry.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOL! what happened here?

fluffpuppy, yes...it's a given that progress occurs. but most of us here on MF are here because we like lenses that may not be the latest and greatest but we do like the way they feel and even their flaws give them a bit of character. i think we can agree to that.

scsambrook, the pics that follow the test heli shots were shot either in f1.4 or f2, but i did sharpen those a bit. but i do like the lens a lot for it's "ugly", sharp bokeh @ f2. Smile

gaeger, great shot. so many things to look at in that photo.

iangreenhalgh1, i am enjoying my purchase as much as all my other old japanese 50s. i certainly use them a lot more than my CZJ pancolar since they "feel" so much better.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
+10 Attilla. I abandoned the "P" forum solely because of the meandering from original post by annoying members and certainly do not want to see it happen to this GREAT forum.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It will not, this is why we have admins and moderators and if needed we will interfere!


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Halleluja!


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's a very capable lens Smile I have the slightly newer, but way more beat up S-C version kindly passed to me by member Rawhead...not sure it's coated at all anymore to be honest Laughing

Works for me though Smile

http://forum.mflenses.com/otters-with-nikkor-s-c-50-1-4-and-tamron-sp-19ah-t24716.html
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