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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: Cheap mirror replacement? Reply with quote

I wonder if there is such "alufólia" or other material to simply scissor cut and use instead of age washed TLR 6x6 mirror. Any other idea?


PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What camera? I think a foil layer above the old mirror, even though it's very thin, would probably throw the focussing out of accuracy.
Silvered glass is the only choice.

I'm just about to order a new mirror for my Yashica Mat 124 from here
http://www.uscamera.com/international/yashicatlr1005.htm

and a new focussing screen from here
http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-175.html

maybe they can help you.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know a hobby chemist etc.?
He could easily resilver the glass

U only need a little silver nitrate, ammonia and glucose
There are many receips on the net.
Costs only a few cents and takes ony about an hour if you know somebody who already has the chemicals (most hobby chemists do).

Results are if done correctly even visibly better than with brand-new mirrors, as silver is reflecting up to 20% more light than normal mirror coatings

Duration of a real silver surface is "only" 3-5 years which is the reason that most mirrors are made from aluminium instead of silver.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could look for a plastic mirror. These are available in several thicknesses and materials.
In the US we have a popular source of plastic materials -

http://www.tapplastics.com/product/plastics/cut_to_size_plastic/acrylic_sheets_mirror_clear/521

There may be a similar vendor in Europe.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: Cheap mirror replacement? Reply with quote

Pancolart wrote:
I wonder if there is such "alufólia" or other material to simply scissor cut and use instead of age washed TLR 6x6 mirror. Any other idea?

First surface mirror blanks are available from places like Edmunds Scientific and others.
Google for 'Surplus Optics"
http://www.surplusshed.com/pages/category/mirrors_1.html


PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for suggestions! I'll let you know what i will be able to find in Slovenia. I guess it's better to have bright and "less detailed" mirror then a dull one.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another idea:
Star diagonals are also good sources of very bright high quality optical mirrors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_diagonal

Nearly all of them have 90%+ reflection (some even 99%) which is more than usual SLR mirrors, gives you a slightly brighter image.
And they are very common used on Ebay

But be be careful to buy a mirror diagonal and not a prism diagonal - the look similar from the outside Wink


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought of something I recall from messing around with Polaroids. One of them, SX-70, has a large first-surface mirror in it, and will probably be available locally.
Worthwhile looking it up first.
http://www.coolhunting.com/design/polaroid-sx-70.php
I don't recall how large the mirror is, though.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much does thickness vary and how much is this likely to throw focus off?


PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Polaroid cameras are indeed a good source, I used this material a couple of times to make replacement mirrors for folding cameras "brilliant" finders.

The trouble is they are thin glass and quite difficult to cut.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that any replacement mirror would throw off infinity, so it would have to be adjusted anyway.
The usual adjustment would be by shimming the groundglass, not the mirror.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read on another camera site about this company -

http://www.scientificmirrors.co.uk/

who advertise
Quote:
"Photographic Front surface mirrors for advertising and nature photography. Beam splitters for on-camera lighting and trick photography. Neutral density filters custom made as required. Camera mirror and prism refurbishment


the post on the other forum was dated 2009, but the guy had two mirrors recoated for next to nothing and was very happy.