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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: what have I done (RB Auto Graflex Series B ) |
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Nesster wrote:
Goes to show, I doubt I'll update my digital camera any time soon. There's just so much interesting film stuff out there. So despite being in the 'save for an upgrade digital' mode, when I saw this unbid I knew I had to have it, if it still was going unbid at the end. It was, and I did, and I own it now. Beat the other bidder by $0.25
RB Auto Graflex Series B
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I can barely make out the second letter of the lens serial, I think it looks like an S making it 1947
Click here to see on Ebay _________________ -Jussi
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
That's a magnificent old camera . . a real collector's item I can see why you wanted it so badly. What roll film does it use? It is still available?
My old Graflex is a more mundane "press" camera. It's been in storage for so many years, unseen, I hope it remains in OK shape. I'm pretty certain I lack a roll film back for mine. I probably should try to find one on eBay.
It's funny how you remember bad things. Probably fifteen years ago I had a buyer come to my home to buy a tripod. He noticed my Graflex, which was out at that time, and asked to see it. He was a stranger, but a mature man, not a kid. He seemed OK.
Anyway, he expressed his admiration for my Graflex, then he reached out and violently moved the old bellows in a way that caused me both surprise and alarm. Bellows deteriorate with age and need gentle treatment to say the least. I separated the fellow from my camera, but too late. What an idiot he was . . and I was, too. |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Ouch! Camera rape. Ought to be outlawed.
The thing that put me over with this, apart from the price and the fact that sooner or later I'd have to have one, is that it comes with a 120 back. The mask is 6x9, but the '22' is numbered for 6x6 - so I'll have to put marks on the dial for 8 rather than 12 frames. Should not be too difficult. Eventually I can get a '23' back.
The lens too ought to be a good one, the Ektars are 4 element lenses and back then were top quality. This one is Lumenized
A fun bit from my research online - apparently you spray lemon Pledge on the shutter curtains, let it sit for a while and then wipe off the excess - that keeps the curtains supple. And adjusting the tension/speed looks to be a fairly simple matter as well.
All in all, I think I'm more excited about this than I would be getting a new digital... though the sane part of me points out I'd use the digital more. _________________ -Jussi
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womble
Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Posts: 987 Location: Hertfordshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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womble wrote:
Yeah, but would your new digital still be working in 2079? I doubt it. Nice buy, and I'm sure you'll have fun with it.
K. _________________ Kris Lockyear
Digital: Pentax K-3iii
35mm film SLRs: various Pentax bodies from a H2 to a SF7, favourites the MX and LX
Rangefinder: Zeiss Super Ikonta IV, FED2, Zorkii-4, Industar 26m, Jupiter 8, 11 and 12 lenses
Medium format: various folders, Yashica Mat 124 G. Lubitel 2
LF: Horseman LE 5x4 view camera.
MF lenses (favourites) Pentax "K" 200mm f/2.5; "K" 135mm f/2.5; "K" 50mm f/1.2; "K" 35mm f/2; "K" 30mm f/2.8; "K" 28mm f/3.5 shift; "K" 15mm f/3.5; M 100mm f/2.8; M 40mm f/2.8; Jupiter-9 85mm |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7793 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
That is an apparatus with a great presence, a thing used by serious photographers. I look forward to seeing some results. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Great buy, its hard to find a similarly capable camera.
Not a lot of 6x9 slr's out there!
Things to check- the usual sort of stuff, but these data particularly prone to them.
Pinholes of course.
Timing. Unless obviously off such as the slow curtain tensions sticking, tough to test without exposure tests.
Correspondence of groundglass with film plane. This includes issues with film flatness. I have been struggling with this with the graphic roll holders and even the later Singer types. Its not too much of a problem to figure out a true film plane, by measuring the center of the film in the hold err, the trouble is that this is not constant . In the end I adapted a German Rollex holder made for 6x9 plate cameras that is more consistent. The practical effect is that for closeups you want to shoot at f/8 or so to allow for focus uncertainty.
Light leaks in the film holder. I found that on some of these its best to leave the dark slide semi-inserted.
I also made a dark slide stub just to leave inserted to block the slide channel.
Check the seal of the bottom of the mirror when closed. The material there can be damaged and leak. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Thanks for the info, always informative and to the point Looks like the camera will arrive early next week... _________________ -Jussi
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Magnificent beast! _________________ Dave - Moderator
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Very nice, look forward to seeing some results. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:26 am Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
That's not a camera! It's a garden log burner! Looks like fun. |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5039 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Great camera.
And now you can take it to some tourist tour and ask someone: "Can you take a photo of us? Just press there." _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
It arrived, and is nicer than described. The lens is in good shape, the shutter works though I have to learn how to operate it, and the back is in fact a 6x6 back. This is the second largest 6x6 SLR I've seen Thing is one of my 6x9 backs may well work with the camera; it is a fairly simple attachment. And I'm looking for a Graflex 23 back of course...
What popped out of the box today by Nesster, on Flickr
Kodak Ektar f:4.5 127mm lumenized by Nesster, on Flickr
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:01 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Yep, its 1947.
Looks like a beauty. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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