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Jesito
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 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: Tamron SP 500mm f8 - 55B |
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Jesito wrote:
This mirror lens was made in two versions: The first one (the one I own) model 55B and a second one model 55BB where Tamron wanted to do some improvements. The main differences are the size (55B is a little bigger), the tripod mount (the 55BB doesn't have it) and the close focusing precission, better on the later model.
After testing both, I kept finally the earlier version: I use these lenses for far focusing, and the tripod mount is a plus.
Mounted on the 5D:
With a BIG_IS adapter with focus confirmation (works well):
And the samples:
First spots, the parabolic aerial and the sundial:
Next spots: Pool ladder and float mattress:
Next spot: clothes lines:
So far, no "doughnut" bokeh at all. With a little care can be avoided (or selected  ).
Hope this helps in cleaning the bad reputation of these nice lenses.
Regards.
Jes.
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Bad reputation?! The Tamron mirrors have a great reputation! They are some of the best mirrors ever made, and your photos demonstrate that well 
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Jesito
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Bad reputation?! The Tamron mirrors have a great reputation! They are some of the best mirrors ever made, and your photos demonstrate that well |
Thanks, Graham
What I really meant was that the 55B and 55BB have got not so good reputation as the 300mm f/5.6 has, but they are good performers.
Regards,
Jes.
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
I have never liked the bokeh on these things but I am very impressed with the IQ you got there.  Thanks
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Farside
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
No, no, no; Jes is right - they have a terrrible, awful, dreadful reputation, which will drive the prices down until I can snap one up.
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miran
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miran wrote:
Awesome, makes me want to get one! By the way, I like doughnut bokeh and could never get why people say it's ugly. 
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SonicScot
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
| Farside wrote: |
| No, no, no; Jes is right - they have a terrrible, awful, dreadful reputation, which will drive the prices down until I can snap one up. |
I totally agree!
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Sigma 100-300/4
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Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
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poilu
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
great IQ on the 5D, I am not sure they would be so good on m4:3
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Jesito
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Thanks for your comments colleagues.
Glad you like the quick tests I did, now I've to test it with the Samsung NX, the NEX, the Pentax-K and the Sigmas...
Jes.
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Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
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Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
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hoanpham
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hoanpham wrote:
Very nice shots.
I have the 55BB model. It is really difficult to get sharp images near infinity with the 55BB, and I don't think any of my photos are as sharp. Focus throw of 55BB near infinity is very short, and no tripod mount. |
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Olivier
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Olivier wrote:
Sure, you're right, these lenses are terrible and awful.  
I think this one is my worse one.
and on a m4/3 like the Pen e-p2, results are awful too, even with a monopod
It's time to make its prices lower...
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Jesito
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Really awful samples...
I knew the pelican one, the bird one is also really.... (ops!).
(A pity the branch crossing along the bird's body)
Better to use it as a paperweight
Jes.
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
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Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
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Olivier
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
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(A pity the branch crossing along the bird's body)
Jes. |
Yes !
That's why I use it as a paperweight, as it is unable to remove branches.
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
| Olivier wrote: |
| Jesito wrote: |
(A pity the branch crossing along the bird's body)
Jes. |
Yes !
That's why I use it as a paperweight, as it is unable to remove branches. |
LMAO
Clearly a useless lens.
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Currently active gear....
Sony a7
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Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
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Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
| Jesito wrote: |
Thanks for your comments colleagues.
Glad you like the quick tests I did, now I've to test it with the Samsung NX, the NEX, the Pentax-K and the Sigmas...
Jes. |
I look forward to seeing these tests.It looks lovely on the Canon  I have to agree it is not a very good lens at removing branches...
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Tesselator
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Tamron SP 500mm f8 - 55B |
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Tesselator wrote:
Something just doesn't feel right here. You're two stories up and you can get that entire pool in frame? Even though I'm used to the 55BB on a µ4/3 (quarter-frame) there's no way I could get more than just the that pool-ladder in frame on my camera (suggesting about a 1/12 or less the frame size you're getting) I would need to be 10 or 12 stories up to get the whole pool in-frame. All your other shots look way too wide too - even taking into account it's on a 5D. Also you're getting lens curvature (pin-cousion distortion) on the 55BB/55B... isn't that like, impossible?
You sure you're posting the right image set from the right lens and not a 100mm or 150mm or so lens?
Something looks just too wrong here. What's up?
And the EXIF is pretty funky here too. Very confusing!
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Olivier
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Jes shows us the entire scenery with his compact and circles the points where he'll shoot with the Tamron SP 500 f8 mounted on his 5D.
Exifs of the 5D shot shows 50mm because of the adapter chip which is set on 50mm.
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Tesselator
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Tesselator wrote:
Ooooooo, I see. Hehehe Makes sense now.  |
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