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Arctures
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 295
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:06 pm Post subject: Finally got my Minolta Rokkor MC 58 f/1.2 |
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Arctures wrote:
I have swapped my Planar 85 1.4 to this beauty. Yes I would like to keep both but I had to decide very quickly and guess what? I am totally in love in this lens. This is what I call 'lens character'. I like every aspect of this gem - Color, Contrast, Bokeh (uhhh), Sharpness, size/weight and so on - almost all from capital letters. Especially I am amazed with color, contrast and f/1.2 performance. Lens is really sharp from f/2.0 and f/1.2 is the sharpest wide open performance over fast lens I saw. Now I feel loosing my head with Minolta instead of Zeiss well, nothing personal actually . I have already purchased some little gems like rokkor-pf 50/1.7 and also hunting for Hexanon 40 now. Well just wanted to share some pics from it.
Almost all @1.2 aperture as I remember and shot on 5D classic:
100% crop (never thought it may be so cool @1.2) :
_________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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aspen
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 307 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
Very nice. _________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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bhargav
Joined: 24 Nov 2011 Posts: 938 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: |
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bhargav wrote:
Good results. I like #4 most.
I'm also happy to see #5 - I didn't know they sold these clocks in Russia! |
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Arctures
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 295
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
Thanks, guys. bhargav, Chinese goods, you know and yes - portraits are something special with this gem. I'll try to update later with some more portraits. _________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
bhargav wrote: |
Good results. I like #4 most.
I'm also happy to see #5 - I didn't know they sold these clocks in Russia! |
I did'nt know they sold clocks in Russia |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Congratulations! I's great to have a f/1.2 in your collection! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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Arctures
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
lol yes they did _________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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Arctures
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 295
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Congratulations! I's great to have a f/1.2 in your collection! |
Thanks,Carsten. A real gem for my little collection which is still too far from yours _________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats! thanks to a mflenses member, I was lucky to find my Rokkor for cheap so I could keep my Planar
mine is nice at f2 http://forum.mflenses.com/rokkor-58-1-2-kritinias-t40739.html
at f1.2, I find it too soft for my taste http://forum.mflenses.com/rokkor-581-2-wo-5dii-t28790.html
I read that they are copy variation and that some are very good wide open but I don't plan to buy 5 to keep 1 _________________ T* |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Which version of the lens do you have, Arctures? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
poilu wrote: |
I read that they are copy variation and that some are very good wide open but I don't plan to buy 5 to keep 1 ;) |
I think part of varying opinions about their sharpness wide open also has to do with the “glow” they exhibit wide open; it can give a soft look, but actually the details are still there beneath the glow. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Arkku wrote: |
I think part of varying opinions about their sharpness wide open also has to do with the “glow” they exhibit wide open; it can give a soft look, but actually the details are still there beneath the glow. |
Yes. Same situation as with the Nikkor 1.2/55 _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Arctures
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 295
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Which version of the lens do you have, Arctures? |
It is plain MC Rokkor, no X or PF with serial 277xxxx. Actually I still haven't had enough time to dig around what are the differences between those versions. Arkku, I want to point out that this glow gets somehow invisible in the bright light and the picture looks very sharp like here: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/828743/0&year=2009#7695442 _________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
In that image it's impossible to tell if this is the case; it could be the combination of small size and sharpening/local contrast enhancement. Also, bright light overall may just mean that the glow—which would be most prominent around the brightest highlights—is there but not as visible because the background is not dark enough.
I also think it may vary by focusing distance; for far-away subjects the glow seems less. I think many who complain about this lens lacking sharpness may have just tested on some close-up subjects. |
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bhargav
Joined: 24 Nov 2011 Posts: 938 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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bhargav wrote:
Arctures wrote: |
Thanks, guys. bhargav, Chinese goods, you know and yes - portraits are something special with this gem. I'll try to update later with some more portraits. |
These 1.2 lenses are really great. I'm really enjoying my canon fl 55/1.2 especially for portraits.
Actually these are Indian clocks. They make them in a small town in my home state. Apparantly it is the biggest exporter of clocks. It was the name that caught my eye, it means "time" in Indian. Sorry for a little distraction to your thread. |
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
bhargav wrote: |
These 1.2 lenses are really great. I'm really enjoying my canon fl 55/1.2 especially for portraits. |
Heh, as the two f/1.2 lenses I happen to have are the MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f/1.2 and Canon FL 55mm f/1.2, I have to agree… they are great. These two have quite different characteristics, though. |
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