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Kathmandu wrote:
Ebay purchase-had to guess what lens it was as it was covered by a dirty filter, and mounted on an old Edixa. I received it today and the lens was a Meyer Lydith in very good shape-threw the old filter away.
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Are you planing on keeping that Edixa? 
I got a Meyer Oreston for $7 off of ebay because it was attached to a Praktica. For some reason the seller thought the lens cap screwed on - so when they unscrewed the lens cap, they unscrewed the trim ring on the front of the lens along with it - voilà a no name (and ugly) lens.
It turned out to be an Oreston in near perfect condition.
Similiarly it's usually cheaper to get a Helios 44m, by searching for a Kalimar SLR - since Kalimar was rebranding Zenit SLRs in the 70s.
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Kathmandu
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Are you planing on keeping that Edixa?
I got a Meyer Oreston for $7 off of ebay because it was attached to a Praktica. For some reason the seller thought the lens cap screwed on - so when they unscrewed the lens cap, they unscrewed the trim ring on the front of the lens along with it - voilà a no name (and ugly) lens.
It turned out to be an Oreston in near perfect condition.
Similiarly it's usually cheaper to get a Helios 44m, buy searching for a Kalimar SLR - since Kalimar was rebranding Zenit SLRs in the 70s. |
I've heard something like that about the Kalimars, somewhere before.
No I will not be hanging on to this Edixa. It looks alright,could use a cleaning. I would be happy to ship this to you, sans lens -I get the notion you are an Edixa lover. Pls let me know -I would be happy to send this to you.
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Wow, it looks very good to me, the color and sharpness.
And the fish-skin bokeh is very cool too like my Biometar.
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Kathmandu
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Kathmandu wrote:
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Wow, it looks very good to me, the color and sharpness.
And the fish-skin bokeh is very cool too like my Biometar. |
Thanks ,now I'll have to try a Biometar.
I have never hear it being described as " fish skin bokeh" ,but thats an apt description.
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Wow, I must have a lemon then... 
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Kathmandu wrote:
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| Wow, I must have a lemon then... |
Sorry to hear that - do these differ from copy to copy like some old Russian lenses?
Heres the lens after some cleanup.I am very impressed with this lens as far as color, sharpness and performance.
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No surprise... I have seen stunning Meyer Lydith results from member RenseH.
What's wrong with Meyer? I like their lenses more than those from Carl Zeiss Jena 
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Kathmandu wrote:
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No surprise... I have seen stunning Meyer Lydith results from member RenseH.
What's wrong with Meyer? I like their lenses more than those from Carl Zeiss Jena |
Can I like them both?
I do not think anyone mentioned anything about what is wrong with Meyer:D .
Having said that ,my limited experience tells me they give a cold tone to images.
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nixland wrote:
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Wow, it looks very good to me, the color and sharpness.
And the fish-skin bokeh is very cool too like my Biometar. |
Thanks ,now I'll have to try a Biometar.
I have never hear it being described as " fish skin bokeh" ,but thats an apt description. |
The term 'fish-skin bokeh' is copyrighted by me ... haha .. just kidding
Well, I've been doing a lens bokeh highlight cataloging of my 75-100mm.
Below is some bokeh sample comparison (I only pick 4 lenses as samples).
From left: Jupiter-9 Alu, Helios 40-2, Biometar 80, Trioplan 100
The Summilux 80 and Contax Zeiss 85 has a fish-skin bokeh too but more subtle.
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Seele wrote:
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| do these differ from copy to copy like some old Russian lenses? |
Kathmandu,
Say, someone asks you: "I want to get a 1979 Ford Cortina, are they any good?"
You are going to say, "It's impossible to tell. Even if they were consistently good when new, how its previous owners treated it would make more of a difference to an individual example."
Pretty much the same applies here too. |
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Kathmandu wrote:
| nixland wrote: |
| Kathmandu wrote: |
| nixland wrote: |
Wow, it looks very good to me, the color and sharpness.
And the fish-skin bokeh is very cool too like my Biometar. |
Thanks ,now I'll have to try a Biometar.
I have never hear it being described as " fish skin bokeh" ,but thats an apt description. |
The term 'fish-skin bokeh' is copyrighted by me ... haha .. just kidding
Well, I've been doing a lens bokeh highlight cataloging of my 75-100mm.
Below is some bokeh sample comparison (I only pick 4 lenses as samples).
From left: Jupiter-9 Alu, Helios 40-2, Biometar 80, Trioplan 100
The Summilux 80 and Contax Zeiss 85 has a fish-skin bokeh too but more subtle. |
Nice demonstration-of the Fish skin bokeh.
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Kathmandu wrote:
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Kathmandu,
Say, someone asks you: "I want to get a 1979 Ford Cortina, are they any good?"
You are going to say, "It's impossible to tell. Even if they were consistently good when new, how its previous owners treated it would make more of a difference to an individual example."
Pretty much the same applies here too. |
Seele,
It gets boring real fast when you butt in to a post that was clearly addressed to someone else. . While your analogy seems to make sense- I was referring to if the lenses came out of the factory , inconsistent in its quality as some old Russian lenses seem to have been .I was asking Klaus this, if you read that post.
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You got a very nice copy. I really like the Bokeh in your 3rd shot. I like lenses that render images this way.
Even some of the cheap lenses produce Fish skin Bokeh, but not as well.
This is my Haminar preset 135 f3.5. This is the only shot I have from this lens, and sadly I missed focus  , but it does demonstrate the Bokeh.
Think I will get it out and retest it.
 " target="_blank">Click here to see on Ebay
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hmmm, maybe it's just me but I hate the bokeh. I like creamy bokeh and this dosent come close.
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Mos6502 wrote:
A lot of early wide angle have rather busy boke. I don't mind it, although it is better suited to some subjects than others I think. If memory serves me correctly, the Enna Lithagon produces a similiar boke. I still need to try mine out. |
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Kathmandu wrote:
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| hmmm, maybe it's just me but I hate the bokeh. I like creamy bokeh and this dosent come close. |
You're a fish skin hater . You just fall in a category of people who hates this bokeh ,I don't think its just you.
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I have the later Pentacon badged 3.5/35, same lens as the Lydith, it's excellent, I use it a lot, it's my walkaround lens for my EOS.
Shot many panoramas and landscapes with it, never lets me down, I love Meyer/Pentacon lenses, particularly their vivid colours and wonderful bokeh.
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Kathmandu wrote:
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| A lot of early wide angle have rather busy boke. I don't mind it, although it is better suited to some subjects than others I think. If memory serves me correctly, the Enna Lithagon produces a similiar boke. I still need to try mine out. |
I would be interested to see the Enna Lithagon bokeh.
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| walter g wrote: |
You got a very nice copy. I really like the Bokeh in your 3rd shot. I like lenses that render images this way.
Even some of the cheap lenses produce Fish skin Bokeh, but not as well.
This is my Haminar preset 135 f3.5. This is the only shot I have from this lens, and sadly I missed focus , but it does demonstrate the Bokeh.
Think I will get it out and retest it.
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Its the Hanimar 135 right? Not Haminar. They sometimes came packaged with Praktica Cameras .
I have a post war 180mm Telemegor that behaves like this.
It helps if the subject is in focus.
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I would be interested to see the Enna Lithagon bokeh. |
I don't have an adapter for this, so I made do with some stiff card with an appropriately sized hole in it for the lens:
All shots at f4.5 (max. aperture)
(the wind came up suddenly - it's not normally this soft I don't think)
I guess it's actually a fair bit softer bokeh (or at least the bright lines on specular highlights aren't as hard anyway). Still rather busy though.
I'll have to try it out with film and see how it goes. |
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| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I have the later Pentacon badged 3.5/35, same lens as the Lydith, it's excellent, I use it a lot, it's my walkaround lens for my EOS.
Shot many panoramas and landscapes with it, never lets me down, I love Meyer/Pentacon lenses, particularly their vivid colours and wonderful bokeh. |
Nice to hear that .
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I've shot a lot of landscapes with it and it works brilliantly for that type of work, I can post samples if you wish.
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| I've shot a lot of landscapes with it and it works brilliantly for that type of work, I can post samples if you wish. |
I have seen your samples Ian, if they are the same ones you posted here before.
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