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Big Dawg
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:40 pm Post subject: CZJ 300mm f/4 Sonnar Red MC VS. CZJ 300mm f/4 Sonnar Olympic |
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Big Dawg wrote:
For those who care..(Orio for instance) LOL This is not a scientific test just a comparison of the 2 lenses and my impressions of them..This will stretch out over time as I use them and so far no choice has been made by me as to which I prefer. Nuff sed...Some photos and crops to look at.
First a few from the 300mm Red MC. The originals and then the crops..somewhere around a 100% crop.
Now the 300mm "Olympic"
And a few long shots with the 300 Red MC. Infinity focus.
From these it looks like the Red MC is sharper....I'm not totally sold on that...Need to shoot some more before I pass judgement on that.
I have noticed the Olympic has more CA but that should be as the coatings on it are different from the other one
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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| Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one! |
I have one for sale (shameless plug) ... 
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Big Dawg
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one! |
I have one for sale (shameless plug) ...
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ORIO!!! TSK TSK TSK. 
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Big Dawg
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one! |
If you get a good one you won't be disappointed. The P6 is big but the M42 Olympic is nearly as big and nearly the same weight!! HEAVY!!
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one! |
I have one for sale (shameless plug) ...
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Hehe! I'd normally take you up on that great offer Orio, but I'm looking at a brand new one locally, still boxed  Someone should definately take it off your hands at that price though 
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Orio wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one! |
I have one for sale (shameless plug) ...
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Hehe! I'd normally take you up on that great offer Orio, but I'm looking at a brand new one locally, still boxed Someone should definately take it off your hands at that price though |
Still boxed frequently means it has faulty, be careful !
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Orio wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one! |
I have one for sale (shameless plug) ...
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Hehe! I'd normally take you up on that great offer Orio, but I'm looking at a brand new one locally, still boxed Someone should definately take it off your hands at that price though |
Still boxed frequently means it has faulty, be careful ! |
Old stock  The guy has five. And 20 brand new 20/2.8 Fleks
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Old stock The guy has five. And 20 brand new 20/2.8 Fleks |
Not to blow my own horn, but be careful and let the seller grant you a right of return. I bought a Tele-Tessar 300 Contax which was new old stock.
It was so ridden with purple fringing to be useless. Luckily, I could return it and buy a perfect Vario-Sonnar 100-300 instead. Also new old stock.
Which is to say that new old stock can be a great thing. But it's no guarantee that the lens doesn't suck.
For instance, I am sure that the lens I returned was re-sold again as new old stock... intelligenti pauca (a word to the wise is sufficient)
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Absolutely Orio, I remember your experience with that lens. I never found out if that was the standard level of performance to be expected from that model, but the 100-300 VS stepped in nicely instead anyway!
Has anyone tried the MC version with a 1.4x TC at all? I'm wondering what it would be like wide open with a Kenko DGX Pro 300 on the end...
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The Olympic doesn't look as good to my eyes, definitely has more CA.
Any idea why that shot has loads of CA and the others from that lens haven't?
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Probably the black on the bird's wing and the light background not mating too well I would expect.
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Big Dawg
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Big Dawg wrote:
The background behind the birds in the 300mm Red MC photos is black...The background of the gray tree trunk in the Olympic photos is much lighter giving a higher contrast thus the edges show the CA. This may happen with the Red MC lens if the background were the same. This is why I have not made any decisions yet and must do many more comparison shots before deciding on one or the other.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Interesting, look forward to more samples!
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| Interesting, look forward to more samples! |
I'll post more soon. This may take a while. They are both very good.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
Here are some infinity shots with the 300mm Olympic. I remembered with these to shoot with a +1 EC so they are better exposed.
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Olivier wrote:
Interesting comparison Dawg.
Where did you find this beautiful feeding column ?
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| Old stock The guy has five. And 20 brand new 20/2.8 Fleks |
Shrek, How much for the Flek 20/2.8 ? 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
| Olivier wrote: |
Interesting comparison Dawg.
Where did you find this beautiful feeding column ?
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| Old stock The guy has five. And 20 brand new 20/2.8 Fleks |
Shrek, How much for the Flek 20/2.8 ? |
Directly across from my front porch and my rocking chair...LOL I'm lazy you see. But actually, I found the feeder here.....
http://www.lowes.com/pd_193409-507-336L_4294822985_4294937087_?productId=3019215&Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl_Feeders_4294822985_4294937087_%3FNs%3Dp_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
I'd like to know that price too!!
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you Doug.
I didn't think it was a squirrel feeder.
Birds seem to like it very much.
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Big Dawg wrote:
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Thank you Doug.
I didn't think it was a squirrel feeder.
Birds seem to like it very much. |
No No my friend...It is a "Squirrel Proof Feeder". That means it is made to feed the birds but keep the Squirrels out of the feeder. It works very well.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject: The lenses being compared here. |
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Big Dawg wrote:
I had to order a 77mm-86mm step up ring and a 86-95mm stepup ring and a CZJ lens shade for a Sonnar 300mm or 180mm lens so the 300mm f/4 Olympic Sonnar could have a lens shade of it's own and make the comparison more equal.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
One of the greatest 300m lenses I love them too very much.
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Big Dawg
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
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| One of the greatest 300m lenses I love them too very much. |
But I have only these 2. How many different types were there? And yes...I love them too!!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| Big Dawg wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
| One of the greatest 300m lenses I love them too very much. |
But I have only these 2. How many different types were there? And yes...I love them too!! |
I know only three type from 300mm these two + zebra . Let me know if you need a zebra also.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Big Dawg wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
| One of the greatest 300m lenses I love them too very much. |
But I have only these 2. How many different types were there? And yes...I love them too!! |
I know only three type from 300mm these two + zebra . Let me know if you need a zebra also. |
Is the Zebra a P6 mount as well?
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