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CZJ 300mm f/4 Sonnar Red MC VS. CZJ 300mm f/4 Sonnar Olympic
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:40 pm    Post subject: CZJ 300mm f/4 Sonnar Red MC VS. CZJ 300mm f/4 Sonnar Olympic Reply with quote
For those who care..(Orio for instance) LOL This is not a scientific test just a comparison of the 2 lenses and my impressions of them..This will stretch out over time as I use them and so far no choice has been made by me as to which I prefer. Nuff sed...Some photos and crops to look at.

First a few from the 300mm Red MC. The originals and then the crops..somewhere around a 100% crop.






Now the 300mm "Olympic"








And a few long shots with the 300 Red MC. Infinity focus.






From these it looks like the Red MC is sharper....I'm not totally sold on that...Need to shoot some more before I pass judgement on that.

I have noticed the Olympic has more CA but that should be as the coatings on it are different from the other one

Last edited by Big Dawg on Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:56 pm; edited 2 times in total


PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one!


PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one!


I have one for sale (shameless plug) ... Embarassed
_


PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one!


I have one for sale (shameless plug) ... Embarassed
_


ORIO!!! TSK TSK TSK. Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one!


If you get a good one you won't be disappointed. The P6 is big but the M42 Olympic is nearly as big and nearly the same weight!! HEAVY!!


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one!


I have one for sale (shameless plug) ... Embarassed
_


Hehe! I'd normally take you up on that great offer Orio, but I'm looking at a brand new one locally, still boxed Shocked Someone should definately take it off your hands at that price though Very Happy


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Orio wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one!


I have one for sale (shameless plug) ... Embarassed
_


Hehe! I'd normally take you up on that great offer Orio, but I'm looking at a brand new one locally, still boxed Shocked Someone should definately take it off your hands at that price though Very Happy


Still boxed frequently means it has faulty, be careful !


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Orio wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Interesting stuff and great shooting! I'm seriously considering buying an MC one!


I have one for sale (shameless plug) ... Embarassed
_


Hehe! I'd normally take you up on that great offer Orio, but I'm looking at a brand new one locally, still boxed Shocked Someone should definately take it off your hands at that price though Very Happy


Still boxed frequently means it has faulty, be careful !


Old stock Smile The guy has five. And 20 brand new 20/2.8 Fleks Shocked


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:

Old stock Smile The guy has five. And 20 brand new 20/2.8 Fleks Shocked


Not to blow my own horn, but be careful and let the seller grant you a right of return. I bought a Tele-Tessar 300 Contax which was new old stock.
It was so ridden with purple fringing to be useless. Luckily, I could return it and buy a perfect Vario-Sonnar 100-300 instead. Also new old stock.

Which is to say that new old stock can be a great thing. But it's no guarantee that the lens doesn't suck.
For instance, I am sure that the lens I returned was re-sold again as new old stock... intelligenti pauca (a word to the wise is sufficient)


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Absolutely Orio, I remember your experience with that lens. I never found out if that was the standard level of performance to be expected from that model, but the 100-300 VS stepped in nicely instead anyway!

Has anyone tried the MC version with a 1.4x TC at all? I'm wondering what it would be like wide open with a Kenko DGX Pro 300 on the end...


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Olympic doesn't look as good to my eyes, definitely has more CA.



Any idea why that shot has loads of CA and the others from that lens haven't?


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Probably the black on the bird's wing and the light background not mating too well I would expect.


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The background behind the birds in the 300mm Red MC photos is black...The background of the gray tree trunk in the Olympic photos is much lighter giving a higher contrast thus the edges show the CA. This may happen with the Red MC lens if the background were the same. This is why I have not made any decisions yet and must do many more comparison shots before deciding on one or the other.


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting, look forward to more samples!


PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Interesting, look forward to more samples!


I'll post more soon. This may take a while. They are both very good.


PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here are some infinity shots with the 300mm Olympic. I remembered with these to shoot with a +1 EC so they are better exposed.





PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting comparison Dawg.
Where did you find this beautiful feeding column ? Smile


ManualFocus-G wrote:
Old stock Smile The guy has five. And 20 brand new 20/2.8 Fleks Shocked

Shrek, How much for the Flek 20/2.8 ? Wink


PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Olivier wrote:
Interesting comparison Dawg.
Where did you find this beautiful feeding column ? Smile


ManualFocus-G wrote:
Old stock Smile The guy has five. And 20 brand new 20/2.8 Fleks Shocked

Shrek, How much for the Flek 20/2.8 ? Wink


Directly across from my front porch and my rocking chair...LOL I'm lazy you see. But actually, I found the feeder here.....
http://www.lowes.com/pd_193409-507-336L_4294822985_4294937087_?productId=3019215&Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl_Feeders_4294822985_4294937087_%3FNs%3Dp_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1%26page%3D2&facetInfo=

I'd like to know that price too!!


PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you Doug.
I didn't think it was a squirrel feeder.
Birds seem to like it very much. Smile


PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Olivier wrote:
Thank you Doug.
I didn't think it was a squirrel feeder.
Birds seem to like it very much. Smile


No No my friend...It is a "Squirrel Proof Feeder". That means it is made to feed the birds but keep the Squirrels out of the feeder. It works very well.


PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:03 pm    Post subject: The lenses being compared here. Reply with quote
I had to order a 77mm-86mm step up ring and a 86-95mm stepup ring and a CZJ lens shade for a Sonnar 300mm or 180mm lens so the 300mm f/4 Olympic Sonnar could have a lens shade of it's own and make the comparison more equal.





PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
One of the greatest 300m lenses I love them too very much.


PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
One of the greatest 300m lenses I love them too very much.


But I have only these 2. How many different types were there? And yes...I love them too!!


PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big Dawg wrote:
Attila wrote:
One of the greatest 300m lenses I love them too very much.


But I have only these 2. How many different types were there? And yes...I love them too!!

I know only three type from 300mm these two + zebra . Let me know if you need a zebra also.


PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Big Dawg wrote:
Attila wrote:
One of the greatest 300m lenses I love them too very much.


But I have only these 2. How many different types were there? And yes...I love them too!!

I know only three type from 300mm these two + zebra . Let me know if you need a zebra also.


Is the Zebra a P6 mount as well?
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