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francotirador
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 Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: Useless comparison, or not? |
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francotirador wrote:
In the midst of a job I have compared my Rokkor 58/1.2 and a Canon L f 2.8 24/70.
The same light
The same aperture and shutter speed
The same iso
The same location
CORRECTION NO. OF ANY KIND
May identify each lens?
Just a game for those who love more romantic times.
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martyn_bannister
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martyn_bannister wrote:
#2 is the Canon |
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
1st = Rokkor, 2nd = Canon. |
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uhoh7
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uhoh7 wrote:
Well the first is softer, but since the aperture is the same, the rokkor should be pretty darn sharp from 2.8 on. So based on the warmth and color range I will guess the second is the Rokkor.
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visualopsins wrote:
Cheating is too easy because of file names.
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Orio wrote:
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| Cheating is too easy because of file names. |
yes 
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
Next time, use other filenames and no EXIF data 
Furthermore, the first picture looks carefully composed (and the subjects are posing), as you would expect when shooting with a manual focus lens.
The 2nd looks more like a 'spontaneous' AF-shot. |
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francotirador
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francotirador wrote:
| visualopsins wrote: |
| Cheating is too easy because of file names. |
But it breaks the game
Is cheating! 
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francotirador wrote:
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| Well the first is softer, but since the aperture is the same, the rokkor should be pretty darn sharp from 2.8 on. So based on the warmth and color range I will guess the second is the Rokkor. |
The first is rokkor, and the point of focus is between the two girls.
In the canon L, is on the first girl
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francotirador
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francotirador wrote:
I really like the Rokkor.
One point is that the headlights make a flare easily in the Canon L.
2º, the image is much flatter. Not have a good 3D performance.
He also compared it with a 135/3.5 Sonnar, and the coating difference was very favorable for Carl Zeiss and has more 3D effect.
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
| francotirador wrote: |
I really like the Rokkor.
One point is that the headlights make a flare easily in the Canon L.
2º, the image is much flatter. Not have a good 3D performance.
He also compared it with a 135/3.5 Sonnar, and the coating difference was very favorable for Carl Zeiss and has more 3D effect.
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Agree, Rokkor picture is very 3d! |
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uhoh7
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uhoh7 wrote:
ahh my mistake besides not looking a the filenames, the rokkor is going to be much harder to focus, hehe
very nice shots though, for sure.
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Nordentro wrote:
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Next time, use other filenames and no EXIF data
Furthermore, the first picture looks carefully composed (and the subjects are posing), as you would expect when shooting with a manual focus lens.
The 2nd looks more like a 'spontaneous' AF-shot. |
Yes, use "save for web" in photoshop to clean away all exif stuff
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