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francotirador
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: Useless comparison, or not? |
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francotirador wrote:
In the midst of a job I have compared my Rokkor 58/1.2 and a Canon L f 2.8 24/70.
The same light
The same aperture and shutter speed
The same iso
The same location
CORRECTION NO. OF ANY KIND
May identify each lens?
Just a game for those who love more romantic times. _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
#2 is the Canon |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3197 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
1st = Rokkor, 2nd = Canon. |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
Well the first is softer, but since the aperture is the same, the rokkor should be pretty darn sharp from 2.8 on. So based on the warmth and color range I will guess the second is the Rokkor. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11012 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Cheating is too easy because of file names. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
Cheating is too easy because of file names. |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3197 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Next time, use other filenames and no EXIF data
Furthermore, the first picture looks carefully composed (and the subjects are posing), as you would expect when shooting with a manual focus lens.
The 2nd looks more like a 'spontaneous' AF-shot. |
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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
Cheating is too easy because of file names. |
But it breaks the game
Is cheating! _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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francotirador
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
uhoh7 wrote: |
Well the first is softer, but since the aperture is the same, the rokkor should be pretty darn sharp from 2.8 on. So based on the warmth and color range I will guess the second is the Rokkor. |
The first is rokkor, and the point of focus is between the two girls.
In the canon L, is on the first girl _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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francotirador
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
I really like the Rokkor.
One point is that the headlights make a flare easily in the Canon L.
2º, the image is much flatter. Not have a good 3D performance.
He also compared it with a 135/3.5 Sonnar, and the coating difference was very favorable for Carl Zeiss and has more 3D effect.
_________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3197 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
francotirador wrote: |
I really like the Rokkor.
One point is that the headlights make a flare easily in the Canon L.
2º, the image is much flatter. Not have a good 3D performance.
He also compared it with a 135/3.5 Sonnar, and the coating difference was very favorable for Carl Zeiss and has more 3D effect.
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Agree, Rokkor picture is very 3d! |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
ahh my mistake besides not looking a the filenames, the rokkor is going to be much harder to focus, hehe
very nice shots though, for sure. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
Next time, use other filenames and no EXIF data
Furthermore, the first picture looks carefully composed (and the subjects are posing), as you would expect when shooting with a manual focus lens.
The 2nd looks more like a 'spontaneous' AF-shot. |
Yes, use "save for web" in photoshop to clean away all exif stuff _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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