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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:35 pm Post subject: Portrait, Canon FD 85/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical on Pentax |
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Spotmatic wrote:
I'm still waiting for the FD to PK adapters I bought on eBay but shipping from China is slow as always. But this doesn't prevent me to hold the lens in front of my old *ist DS
_________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Pro! She have beautiful eyes! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It is one exceptional lens what you hold in your hand, Peter.
Some history and facts:
http://www.luciolepri.it/lc2/marcocavina/articoli_fotografici/TEST_85mm_f_1,2/00_pag.htm _________________ Orio, Administrator
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
So glad a photographer with your talent has this piece of magnificent glass Peter.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Thanks guys! Sorry Attila, this was just a family snapshot. After this I got 9 out of focus shots because it's not easy holding the heavy lens to the camera )
Indeed, I know the story behind this extraordinary lens (though I have never visited the link you provided, Orio, I have done it now but the online translations are very bad).
Too bad it won't fit on most camera systems. A Russian Pentaxian did modify the mount (though this is the newer L version, I have the older breechlock version), resulting in this:
I don't think I will ever go this route, but wait for the first viable FF EVIL system. Then I can have the best of both worlds: FF and lenses that don't need to be modified at all. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Great shot Peter. That´s why I love this lens.
Did you buy a special adapter ?
I found this one
Click here to see on Ebay.de
What do you expect because adapters with glass have normally not the best IQ.
Have a nice weekend.
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
That's indeed the adapter I bought, Rolf, though I have yet to receive it (them; I actually bought two) though.
Frankly, I don't expect a lot of IQ loss, wide open, because the adapter is a f/stop in itself. The picture will not improve, that for sure. That's why I bought two: I hope I can do something with the 2nd one once I have removed the glass (and most of the surrounding metal).
Have a good weekend too _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Thanks Peter.
Perhaps you can write your experiences with this adapter into this thread. I´m very interested - and also on your results with the second one.
_________________ Rolf |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Be my guest; I will write everything I can once I have the adapters in my hands! _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Fine. Besides that I´m also waiting for a FF EVIL cam from C or N or P. That´s why I keep all my lenses here.
_________________ Rolf |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
I still don't understand that there's not a Live View on the magnificent Leica M9. I'm sure it would sell even better then, despite its price. But OK, this is Leica so they can get away with it _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Dear Peter ..
a few words..
First of all, I am always amazed by your eye .. ..
Secondly, thanks for your idea holding lens in front of camera.
Well, I can take a little advantage as FD lenses fit quite well into EF mount.
I also do not understand Leica M9 strategy - only people they have this cam can say something.
I have a strong feeling that FF camera with no mirror is coming soon ..
I have tried the Samsung NX-10 and this camera really smells by something I really like even it needs to have some improvements.
But I must say that's what we're looking (waiting) for.
I do believe in FF mirrorles evil. Moreover, Samsung has own sensor and they can make it up! Fingers crossed!
Stan _________________ Flickr.com |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Stan, I agree with everything you have said, but I'd like to stay away from Samsung. They have no photographic past whatsoever, and I still hate the noisy Samsung sensor in my K-7 (well, hating is not the right word, but they could have done better).
A FF evil is pretty much a given and will come sooner than we think. SLR cameras are now nearing their end. Once electronic viewfinders have improved there's really no reason to have a moving mirror in our cameras. Of course, a SLR viewfinder does not consume power, but it's not like electronic viewfinders are very power hungry. Besides, there's always a solution for every problem. And... I'd love to see non-retrofocus wide angle lenses in a modern package. Exciting times are ahead.
Why not a FF EVIL from Pentax? I don't see them releasing a FF SLR ever, not since they announced the K-5 which not only has about 14 stops of DR at ISO 80, but probably also the best high ISO in the APS-C class. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
I'd love to see non-retrofocus wide angle lenses in a modern package. Exciting times are ahead |
I have got one non-retrofocus lens - Voigtlander 15 f4.5 SL Super-Wide Heliar..
It really vignettes and corners are dark - well, pretty much I'd say but sharpness and CA issues are in incredible balance.
I am also not bothered by electronic viewfinder - surprisingly, I like it .. The DLSR cameras may have a big competitors soon
tf _________________ Flickr.com |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
A FF evil is pretty much a given and will come sooner than we think. SLR cameras are now nearing their end. Once electronic viewfinders have improved there's really no reason to have a moving mirror in our cameras. |
Well, I for once would miss looking through a viewfinder and using my face to stabilize the camera and not having to wear a black cloth to block out sunlight from viewer. Maybe I'm old fashioned
I will probably buy a FF evil when it comes out, just for the sake of using all my lenses on it. But I will never give up shooting reflex, that is for sure. it just fits me too well for some type of shooting (portraits, glamour) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Spotmatic wrote: |
A FF evil is pretty much a given and will come sooner than we think. SLR cameras are now nearing their end. Once electronic viewfinders have improved there's really no reason to have a moving mirror in our cameras. |
Well, I for once would miss looking through a viewfinder and using my face to stabilize the camera and not having to wear a black cloth to block out sunlight from viewer. Maybe I'm old fashioned
I will probably buy a FF evil when it comes out, just for the sake of using all my lenses on it. But I will never give up shooting reflex, that is for sure. it just fits me too well for some type of shooting (portraits, glamour) |
A FF EVIL is not the same as a P&S with live view on the back LCD. I was thinking about the Panasonic G1/GH1 and the like. Those have real viewfinders like the viewfinders you are used to. Only the ground glass screen is replaced with a LCD screen.
See, it's not that bad as it seems _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
If the camera has a normal viewfinder then the thing is different.
But are those electronic viewfinders on par in quality with optical viewfinders?
I have the memory of the viewfinders of my camcorders and that was ugly _________________ Orio, Administrator
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:02 am Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Orio, I understand your experience but I was really surprised by Samsung NX-10 elect. viewfinder.. I used to have Canon IS-something (I don't remember) and that camera has elect. viewfinder - I could actually see huge pixels - I felt like a fly which sees all in small patterns
But these modern elect. viewfinders are slightly different and speaking for Samsung Nx-10 which covers 100 per cent of the view - I must say I would be happy with something like that - and the view REALLY looks like what you finally get although it is not reality. It's like a small liveview.
tf _________________ Flickr.com |
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