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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:00 am Post subject: TAIR-11A sample gallery |
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Orio wrote:
I have taken some pictures this morning, with the TAIR-11A that I am selling on Ebay, in order to hopefully promote the sale.
Here's the gallery:
http://www.orio.ws/temp/tairsample/index.html
I am more and more amazed by this lens, the more I use it. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Amazing lens indeed, I am afraid people not respect at all because Russian.Make same lines as review and I will put on the front page of mflenses.com perhaps will help to redirect some traffic to your Ebay auction.
People has interesting thinking I sold less than one day Fujinon 85mm soft lens , rare lens, nothing else. This Tair11A much, much better and I think it will be hard to sell. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Orio wrote:
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| Amazing lens indeed, I am afraid people not respect at all because Russian. |
Yeah.
But I am not going to lower the price. This is a good price. If someone respects the lens and wants it, great, if not, I will keep having two Tairs in my roster. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
This is the right decision, I also keep many lenses about this reason. |
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Ballu
 Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Ballu wrote:
Orio.. I want to say.. you are the culprit to put me on russina lenses trail... And see.. I am a happy guy
These results are superb... there is something different in these lenses... _________________ -Ballu
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Borges
 Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 646 Location: Moers, Germany
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Borges wrote:
Wonderful results, Orio, sure you want to sell it? I have a 11-2 "00"-series and the same experiences - I think this lens would never realize a price adequate to it's real value.
And now I dismiss. But only for a few days...
Michael _________________ list of lenses:
Helios 44 (many different versions), Jupiter-9 , Jupiter 21M, Jupiter 37AM, Mir-1W, Mir-1V, Mir-10A, Mir-47M, Zenitar Fisheye, Tair 11-2, Industar 50-2 and a few more ...
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Orio wrote:
| Borges wrote: |
| Wonderful results, Orio, sure you want to sell it? |
Yes, I bought some things and I need to cut some branches.
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| I have a 11-2 "00"-series and the same experiences |
A Tair-11-2 ? I never heard of this model
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| I think this lens would never realize a price adequate to it's real value. |
Yes, that's true, based on quality of image it should go in the same price league of the big names, but at least I will not give it away, if I don't get a decent price I will keep it.
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And now I dismiss. But only for a few days... |
Happy holiday, you who can! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Borges
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Borges wrote:
I will take a picture of it when I'm back. It's looking like the tair 11 with black body instead of the aluminium of the original version. Made by KMZ itself but not mentioned on www.zenitcamera.com. I've never seen this lens in the net before. The serial numer "00" could be an indicator for a pre-series or something else.
And thanks for your wishes. Weather forecast for the region is about 15 degrees celsius.
Michael _________________ list of lenses:
Helios 44 (many different versions), Jupiter-9 , Jupiter 21M, Jupiter 37AM, Mir-1W, Mir-1V, Mir-10A, Mir-47M, Zenitar Fisheye, Tair 11-2, Industar 50-2 and a few more ...
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Orio wrote:
| Borges wrote: |
I will take a picture of it when I'm back. It's looking like the tair 11 with black body instead of the aluminium of the original version. Made by KMZ itself but not mentioned on www.zenitcamera.com. I've never seen this lens in the net before. The serial numer "00" could be an indicator for a pre-series or something else.
Michael |
My two Tairs are exactly like that: black, and with the serial number beginning with "00".
But they are marked TAIR-11A _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Borges
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Borges wrote:
Yes - but this 11-2 has the barrel of the 11 (only in black), not like the 11A. This confuses me a little bit...
Michael _________________ list of lenses:
Helios 44 (many different versions), Jupiter-9 , Jupiter 21M, Jupiter 37AM, Mir-1W, Mir-1V, Mir-10A, Mir-47M, Zenitar Fisheye, Tair 11-2, Industar 50-2 and a few more ...
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montecarlo
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
Yes, I can confirm that. The TAIR-11A is a great lens. My father bought it around '85 or '86 I believe.
Here it is
I think is better wide open than the other 135 mm lenses I have: Pentacon 2.8/135 (single coated but non the preset version) and Porst (rebranded Cosina) MC 2.8/135 _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
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Hello,
Yes, I can confirm that. The TAIR-11A is a great lens. My father bought it around '85 or '86 I believe.
Here it is  |
Yes, that's the same look of my copies, only difference: I have that 00 in the beginning of the serial number. Which can not be explained with the year of production, because there was no CCCP anymore in the year 2000!
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I think is better wide open than the other 135 mm lenses I have: Pentacon 2.8/135 (single coated but non the preset version) and Porst (rebranded Cosina) MC 2.8/135 |
I would add that the image is much clearer and cleaner than the Pentacon's (at least, of my Pentacon) also when stopped down. The TAIR-11A is really a lens for the digital photography, although it wasn't made for that - but the clarity of image it brings is perfactly suited for digital photography. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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sqwall
 Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 195 Location: Varna, Bulgaria
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sqwall wrote:
Great lens indeed. I terribly want one. But I am broke at the moment. _________________ Olympus E-500 | Pentax K100D | Fujifilm S9000
Mir-1B | SMC Takumar 50mm 1.4 | Industar 50-2 | Vega-12B | Jupiter-37A | Jupiter-21M | Tair-3A |
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
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| Great lens indeed. I terribly want one. But I am broke at the moment. |
I can understand you. About 20 years ago, I was very much into photography, probably even more than now, I had just finished the Uni and the civilian service, and I was unemployed. I had bought the Nikon FM2 with terrible efforts, but then, the only lenses I could afford were horrible used zooms of Sigma and Tamron. I was wishing so much for some prime lenses.
But I tell you something.
I had a lot of free time to enjoy photographing with what I had. Although of course at the time there was no digital so one had to take it easy with the expense for the film. But yet, I could really enjoy taking photographs.
Now? I have a good work and gain some decent money, but look at me: I'm here, miserable, having to work almost all around the clock with 40°, even in the weekend, to meet this stupid deadline. I can not go out and photograph.
Am I happier? No, I am just more frustrated.
Sometimes, like now, I wish I was still unemployed and with trash lenses, but able to go out and take photographs anytime. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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montecarlo
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montecarlo wrote:
...this morning :
with TAIR-11A 2.8/135 + on Pentax K100D
(C) Cosmin_M
! with 2x TeleConverter - Porst =>270mm !
(C) Cosmin_M
! with 2x TeleConverter - Porst =>270mm !
(C) Cosmin_M
! with 2x TeleConverter - Porst =>270mm !
(C) Cosmin_M
! with 2x TeleConverter - Porst =>270mm !
(C) Cosmin_M
! with 2x TeleConverter - Porst =>270mm !
(C) Cosmin_M
without TC (135mm)
(C) Cosmin_M _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
Except the last one, all the pictures seem very flareish, Cosmin. Did you use the built-in hood?
My experience with the lens is completely different, very saturated colours and very good contrast. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Looks this lens has haze one of inner elements. Is it true ? |
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montecarlo
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
The lens are in good shape. No hase is present. The lower contrast and softer image could be the result of using the Porst 2X teleconverter (I think is certain). The same soft (if not even softer) pictures I made with the Pentacon 2.8/135 + 2X TC.
The results on film, using the same combo is even worst .
With after processing, still, you could have some good shots (and need extra focallenght, with a relatively compact lens - compared with the Pentacon 4/300).
PS. Apropos, some of you, used that lens - Pentacon 4/300 ? How it is , wide open (with a 2X TC could became a 600mm f:8 lens, but with worst quality) ?
Thank you. _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
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| The lower contrast and softer image could be the result of using the Porst 2X teleconverter (I think is certain). |
This certainly is the reason. Almost all TCs influence the performance badly. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Something went seriously wrong, perhaps haze or don't know. This lens is lot better what can I see on this pictures.
I made this shoots today with same lens.
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=2699 |
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Riku
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Riku wrote:
His pictures look very good and sharp to me... only contrast is lower. Was there any post processing? |
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montecarlo
 Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: Pentax mount on TAIR |
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
I would need a little help. Please, did anyone changed the mount of a TAIR 11A ( http://www3.yomogi.or.jp/gadsaito/tair11ac.jpg http://www3.yomogi.or.jp/gadsaito/tair11aa.jpg ) with one of this kind ( http://f64.ro/foto/7615614+T_adapter_C.jpg from http://f64.ro/det.php?id=255&pid=2876) ?
I have a M39 mount for my TAIR but I would like to "transform" (in a reversible way) the lens -if I can- into a K Pentax mount lens.
Thank you very much.
PS. T2 mount has 55mm registered distance ( http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/mounts.htm ). Could simple T mount have the same value ? I might have to cut from the adapter !? _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
My suggestion is M39->M42 ring +M42->Pentax-K adapter. DO you have any problem with this ? |
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montecarlo
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montecarlo wrote:
Thank you for the tip but I have a M42 and M39 mount for the Tair. I want it to have a K pentax one.
At the concert I was, I didn't brought any M42 manual lens because I need to be much more careful (and more time) to mount them on the camera. This is more difficult wher you are in more crowded place and pretty dark. Once I have mounted a M42 lens with the adapter on, I can take down the adapter (lets say I need to usa a bayonet lens) only after I first unsrew the lens, take the tool for removing the adapter, and removing the adapter. Until I do this (usually with the mount facing down) dust might enter the mirror chamber and the subject/s I want it to "catch" is already gone. A bayonet is better than a screw mount, in this respect. I don't know if in the case of a M42-EOS adapter the lens cames off the camera with the adapter on. This might be an advantage. _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Ah sounds difficult, ask in local photoshop a good techician he able to convert lens end to Pentax-K. Here we have some people who can do it I just heard never tried. |
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