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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: Jupiter-3 5cm 1.5 RED P Leica screw mount |
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Attila wrote:
I just got lens today, on quick test shoots I saw soft wide open. I read on net it has variable quality , most of them soft at wide open, but on pleasant way. Any experience , opinion ?
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rawhead
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
The only opinion I have is I want it _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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RTI
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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RTI wrote:
Attila, in case you're planning to sell it, let me know plz _________________ Cameras: Canon 5DIII, Zorki-4, Canon AE-1
MF:Rokkor 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 58/1.4, Yashica ML 50/1.7, M39 Jupiter-9 (silver 1955), Zuiko 35-70/3.6
AF: Sigma Art 35/1.4, Tamron 24-70/2.8 VC, |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
sound great perhaps I will, I wait 3 yrs to buy one locally, I will try it out and might be it will go. _________________ -------------------------------
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Beautiful copy of J3. Congrats Mate. Don't sell this one
I've owned a few now. It is my strong opinion that this lens needs to be shot on film or full frame to be appreciated.
Mirrorless Digital users will be disappointed especially at wide open.
The lens is "mostly" center sharp wide open with a nice glow and soft oof area. Leading to a very nice look for Portraits
If you have the corners/edges cropped away by a small sensor, the center will not look sharp by comparison as there will be no fall off to give basis to the center.....the effect will be lost.
The sonar 50's are special this way and small sensors kill it IMO. Even the M8 with a x1.3 factor looses much of the magic.
If you use a Leica ltm or M mount camera you will need to shim the lens for focus accuracy.
Brian Sweeney adjusted one for me and it was night and day the difference after wards.
I don't have many samples online but, here is a sonar look. very lo-fi film shoot. This one is looks great printed though. Classic portrait lens.
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Hey , thank you !! My feel is lot better now than before! Beautiful capture! _________________ -------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I do wonder if it offers any advantage over the J-8 on digital. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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I do wonder if it offers any advantage over the J-8 on digital. |
I think yes, at f2 already stopped down and sharper than J8 wide open I think I will give it a try. _________________ -------------------------------
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I don't think you will see an "improvement" towards "modernness" from the J3 versus J8.
The J8 behaves mush better in terms of focus shift and contrast on a native body (rangefinder).
On a NEX focus shift is not an issue but the contrast will be noticeable. As well the edges will be illuminated more evenly and sharper.
I Suppose the word improvement is the problem. The 2 lenses are just slightly different.
I use a LTM Nikor 1.4/50mm now. It has the look of the classic sonar wide open but, no focus shif stopping down and it looks quite modern by f4 (high contrast and even-ness to edges.
The J3 will be fantastic on an old Zorki or Fed and a roll of HP-5 |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I bought it with a Zorki-4 , my favourite FSU L39 rangefinder is Zorki-C, I will try it for sure with Fomapan, Ilford didn't impressed me reason perhaps developer I have only Foma developers Foma and Rodinal. I like fomapan one of the most inexpensive B&W film with great tonality. _________________ -------------------------------
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kds315*
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
VERY nice Attila! If you ever sell, it , I stand in line for it!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
VERY nice Attila! If you ever sell, it , I stand in line for it!! |
okay, I never thought this will be so popular. _________________ -------------------------------
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kuuan
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
looks really great Attila, congrats!
now I am very curious about your comparison between J-3 and J-8 _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I bought it with a Zorki-4 , my favourite FSU L39 rangefinder is Zorki-C, I will try it for sure with Fomapan, Ilford didn't impressed me reason perhaps developer I have only Foma developers Foma and Rodinal. I like fomapan one of the most inexpensive B&W film with great tonality. |
HP-5 works well in Rodinal if you like the grain it gives. It's much smoother in Tmax Dev. I like the look of it in Tmax very, very much.
I don't know the Zorki-C. I'll google it
Looks like you could sell a dozen of these. Maybe you should get a female J3 and breed them |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
Looks like you could sell a dozen of these. Maybe you should get a female J3 and breed them |
I like in Zorki-C double finder one normal clear viewfinder and one magnified RF and it's shape. I will try sometimes your developer suggestion, don't it's available locally or not. _________________ -------------------------------
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themoleman342
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:17 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I don't mean to direct the conversation towards film but I've never been too impressed with HP-5. Maybe it doesn't respond well to Xtol 1:1. I can't complain about the grain but the contrast was never to my liking. It turns low contrast scenes into soup.
I think a fast lens like the J3 deserves a slow film. Utilize that wide-open character. |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
I don't have many samples online but, here is a sonar look. very lo-fi film shoot. This one is looks great printed though. Classic portrait lens.
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That is really a beautiful portrait, Andy. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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IAZA
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:55 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I'm waiting for this lens to come too today should arrived
j8 is great little lens, will be nice comparison J3 & J8 _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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aspen
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:02 am Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
Attila wrote: |
kds315* wrote: |
VERY nice Attila! If you ever sell, it , I stand in line for it!! |
okay, I never thought this will be so popular. |
I almost purchased a J3 today (a 1950 year), but the seller got pushy and $165 selling price was too steep for me. I looked at a '57, like the one you have. It was much more affordable. So, I'm very interested in the results that you get from it, both with film and the Nex. _________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Thank you Orio you are too kind This was a fun shoot from summer 2010.
Marc
HP5 needs extra exposure in low contrast scenes. I often expose it at 100 iso rather than the rated 400.
Adjust development and agitation accordingly.
I'll start a new thread on hp5 with a few samples and my workflow when I get a chance. It's great stuff.
It seems we all better become happy with Ilford/Harmon products. They might be the last one standing... |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
aspen wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
kds315* wrote: |
VERY nice Attila! If you ever sell, it , I stand in line for it!! |
okay, I never thought this will be so popular. |
I almost purchased a J3 today (a 1950 year), but the seller got pushy and $165 selling price was too steep for me. I looked at a '57, like the one you have. It was much more affordable. So, I'm very interested in the results that you get from it, both with film and the Nex. |
1950 lens has ears means made from Sonnar parts! Price is high about this reason + rarity 165 USD still half price vs Sonnar average price. _________________ -------------------------------
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M. Valdemar
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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M. Valdemar wrote:
I have a dozen of them. As they came from the factory, they were not shimmed correctly to the Leica standard. If you google, you can find tons of information and directions on how to fix them.
Then, they become amazingly sharp.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78083
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/01/06/jupi-what-shooting-jupiter-lenses-on-the-leica-m9-by-robert-chisholm/ |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Many thanks for these valuable info! _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I did take a look at the links but found the info dispersed and not clear.
Does anyone have a clearly laid out instructions set? I am not going to attempt anything myself (I also don't have any soviet L39 lenses at the moment),
but just in case I might need a modification, I'd like to have a paper with info to submit to the lab. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I did take a look at the links but found the info dispersed and not clear.
Does anyone have a clearly laid out instructions set? I am not going to attempt anything myself (I also don't have any soviet L39 lenses at the moment),
but just in case I might need a modification, I'd like to have a paper with info to submit to the lab. |
Look here for starters. I think there are a few others out there. This one is an old bookmark I had.
http://pentax-manuals.com/repairs/j3service.pdf |
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