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Attila
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 Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: M42 lenses what you think must have to try it out |
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Attila wrote:
My suggestion is :
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm
Tair 11A 135mm f2.8
Pentacon 135mm f2.8
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135mm
What is yours ?
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Rolf wrote:
Takumar 4/200 - best bang for the money 
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symphonic
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symphonic wrote:
I only have two and both are from your list Attila (Pancolar and Sonnar). I couldn't agree more, especially for 50mm Pancolar - it's an unbelievably fun lens. And a great-looking lens, too. 
Flektogon is next on my to-buy list.
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Spotmatic wrote:
The 58mm f/1.9 Primoplan because of its unique rendering.
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djmike
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djmike wrote:
CZJ 35/50/135mm are great but don't forget Takumar SMC 50/1.4 and Helios 58/2.
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
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revers
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revers wrote:
I must say I am very impressed with my Helios 44-2.
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Excalibur wrote:
***What is yours ?***
Haven't many M42 lenses.... but the super tak 35mm f3.5 is a nice lens and don't forget the Meyer 135mm Orestor and 50mm Oreston.
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peterqd
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: M42 lenses what you think must have to try it out |
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peterqd wrote:
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My suggestion is :
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm
Tair 11A 135mm f2.8
Pentacon 135mm f2.8
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135mm
What is yours ? |
Wot, no Helios 40 or Jupiter 9? >)
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hinnerker wrote:
Dont forget Yashica DS-M 1.4/50mm, 2.8/24mm, 2.8/35mm... very nice lenses.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Super Takumar 55/1.8 or 55/2 - just great all round
CZJ Flektogon for close up fun
CZJ sonnar 135/3.5 - particularly for flowers and stuff
Pentacon 135/2.8 preset for the bokeh, 135/2.8 auto/electric for sharpness
Industar 50-2 for making people look!
Helios 44-2 for the swirls
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hemmo wrote:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35mm
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 1.8/80mm
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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| Takumar 4/200 - best bang for the money |
+1
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: M42 lenses what you think must have to try it out |
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Attila wrote:
| peterqd wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
My suggestion is :
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm
Tair 11A 135mm f2.8
Pentacon 135mm f2.8
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135mm
What is yours ? |
Wot, no Helios 40 or Jupiter 9? >) |
I won't make long list by my self, naturally they are in.
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eccs19
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eccs19 wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
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| Takumar 4/200 - best bang for the money |
+1 |
I can't comment on many of the lenses listed, as I've only got M42 Taks. I've got the Takumar 200mm F3.5, and think it's great. If the F4 is similar, then I can't argue the above at all.
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dude163
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dude163 wrote:
I agree with the helios 44
and dont forget the Super MC Takumar 50mm f 1.4! |
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
Repeating Attila's Pentacon 135mm f2.8 and Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135mm,
adding any Takumar, but especially 2/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/28, 4.5/20, 3.5/24, S-M-C 2.5/135 II, S-M-C 1.8/85, and any of the macro-takumars. Good low price/high performance ratio takumar selections are 3.5/135, 1.8/55, 3.5/28, and 3.5/35.
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M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Arkku
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: M42 lenses what you think must have to try it out |
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Arkku wrote:
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Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm
Tair 11A 135mm f2.8
Pentacon 135mm f2.8
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135mm
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Heh, I have every lens on your list. I wouldn't put Tair-11A on the list, though; it's a good lens but in my opinion not a “must”. I'd add:
Helios-44-2 – I'd recommend this as a cheap “starter lens”.
Fujinon 55mm f/1.8 – Cheap to find with a Fujica body but excellent quality + unique Fuji colours & character.
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I have never seen the 55/1.8 and 50/1.4 Takumars compared alongside each other but the majority speak favoribly of both. Is there really much difference in lens resolution between the two? or do you just pay 3x - 5x more for 1.4 aperture? |
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Excalibur
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Excalibur wrote:
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| I have never seen the 55/1.8 and 50/1.4 Takumars compared alongside each other but the majority speak favoribly of both. Is there really much difference in lens resolution between the two? or do you just pay 3x - 5x more for 1.4 aperture? |
erm well I've never rated the super/auto tak 55/f1.8 as very good for sharpness and nor the super 135mm f3.5, but the super 35mm f3.5 is very good.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Good to see so many great lenses in this list, thank you!
I wish to try in future 2/35mm Takumar and 20mm f4.5.
Some more addition from my experience
Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58mm f2
Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 75mm f1.5
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 80mm f1.8
Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 50mm f2.8
Carl Zeiss Tessar 50mm f2.8 Oberkochen
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William
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I agree with Atilla on the CZJ Tessar 2.8/50. They are very easy to find and a good copy is fantastic, better than the Pancolar 1.8/50 IMO and a very good lens for the small cost.
I have tried a Super-Tak 1.8/55 and dislike it compared to the Super 1.8/50 and 1.4/50. The 1.4/50 Super is my favourite standard lens out of 12 tried so far, especially the first version. It changes character from dreamy and great for portraits around wide open to sharper at f4 and on.
A 1.4/50 S-M-C is on the way to replace it so it will be interesting to compare.
The Super/SMC Tak 2/35 is also on my list to try and compare to the Mir-1B. |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
The Super Tak 55/1.8 and 55/2 is a fantastic lens for the money (£20-30) and way better than the cheaper Helios and Pentacon standard lenses. For someone on a budget who can't afford the 50/1.4, the 55mm standard is superb IMO.
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Voigtländer Color-Ultron 50/1.8 (or Zeiss Ultron 50/1.
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William
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William wrote:
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The Super Tak 55/1.8 and 55/2 is a fantastic lens for the money (£20-30) and way better than the cheaper Helios and Pentacon standard lenses. For someone on a budget who can't afford the 50/1.4, the 55mm standard is superb IMO.
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Great photo, is that the 55/1.8?. Agree on it being a lot better than the Pentacon and the Helios 44-2/M. The 50/1.4 can often be found for £40 which is not a great deal more. If on a budget I'd consider the CZJ Tessar 2.8/50 though which is often around £20:
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IAZA
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IAZA wrote:
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The Super Tak 55/1.8 and 55/2 is a fantastic lens for the money (£20-30) and way better than the cheaper Helios and Pentacon standard lenses. For someone on a budget who can't afford the 50/1.4, the 55mm standard is superb IMO.
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I never tried any Takumar lenses. I have Pentacon 200/4, 15 blades. Someone wants it to traded with Tak 55/2. He'll add about $30 to me as part of trading. I want to know is it worthy ? I saw picture taken with his lens (wide open) isn't impressive
Thanks
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