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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: Super Takumar 135mm Field Test |
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cmontoya wrote:
Here are my favorites from the Super Takumar 135mm f/3.5 field test held last November 30, 2009. Manual focus only lens noob here so forgive me if these shots are nothing more than snapshots.
I did discover that these single coated Super Taks aren't good in overly bright scenes though (even with the lens hoods and UV filters on).
What I like about these lenses are that photos taken with them in good lighting conditions are contrasty and have natural colors. I only used Canon's Neutral Picture Style and improved the contrast a little by using NoiseNinja and Smart Sharpen (Amount: 10%, Radius 20.0 pixels, Remove: Lens Blur). _________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The samples are good, and the lens is too.
Well done. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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cmontoya wrote:
@Orio: Thank you. I bought the lenses from e-bay sellers with 100% ratings. I regret not getting the SuperTak 35 f/2 when one of them offered it to me. I declined because I already have the 28mm but I should have bought the 35mm for its low light capability. Anyway, I'll continue my search for a 35mm f/2 in ebay or here. _________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
welcome cmontoya
nice series, my favorites #1#3 |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Excellent results.
One story - back a couple of years, at the local camera store there were two 135 screw mount lenses - both were $40. One was a S-M-C 3.5, the other a Yashinon DX 135/2.8. I dithered and debated, finally deciding the Yashinon was the rarer one and 2.8 to boot. I wish I'd bought the Tak instead - the DX at least on digital suffers from a form of hazing, maybe reflection off the sensor. _________________ -Jussi
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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
The samples are much more than snapshots, well done...
I would suggest a SMC Takumar F1.4 50mm or 50mm F1.8 cheaper lens for low light conditions... _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
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TBaker
Joined: 02 Dec 2009 Posts: 344 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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TBaker wrote:
These are sharp...nice. I have the SMC version of the 3.5 on the way along with an adaptor for my 40D. I can't bloody wait. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Superb again! Loving Wall-e even more The cat and the flowers look great too, a very strong mf start! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Good samples of a very fine lens. Thanks
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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cmontoya wrote:
@poilu: Thank you. Please call me Carlo. Hmm, I should have numbered the photos. Sorry about that.
@Nesster: Thank you. I researched about manual focus lenses for Canon EOS cameras for around two months and I found out that I liked the following: Asahi Super Takumar, Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar, and Jupiter-9, 37-A. I decided to go with the SuperTaks because of their builds.
@Tharos: Yes, I'm thinking of getting the SMC Takumar 50 1.4 but I already have Canon's 50 1.8 so I decided to hunt for a 35 2 first. Plus, I'm kind of worried about the radioactive content of the SMC Takumar 50 1.4.
@TBaker: Salamat (thanks). I know the feeling. My lenses came earlier than the adapters and I had to wait a month to do this field test. It turned out that our postal office had them already for a month and 'forgot' to deliver them. I'm living in the Philippines and we have the most efficient postal system in the world (sarcastic tone).
@Shrek: Thank you. WALL-E's my daughter's toy. The cat was a willing model. It wasn't afraid of people. It's the kind of cat that approaches you to ask for food. Pity I didn't have something to give it.
@patrickh. Thank you also. _________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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shauttra
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Location: Latvia
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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shauttra wrote:
yeah! 135mm lenses are my favorites!
Good results! _________________ Mto-1000, Tair-3, Auto Exaktar 135mm 2,8, Samyang 14mm 2.8,
Jupiter 37A, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135/3.5,
Helios-44, Mir-1, Revuenon 50/1.4,
Carl Zeiss Pancolar 50/1.8, Samyang 24/1.4, Auto Vivitar 35/2.8
www.radosi.lv
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Nice work indeed, I really like the samples and the bokeh is great.
Now, can you please also tell us whether you have the first version of the Super-Takumar 135mm f/3.5 or the second version? The first version has 5 elements (just like the preset version), the second version (the same version as the S-M-C Takumar) has 4 elements. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:01 am Post subject: |
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cmontoya wrote:
@shauttra: Thanks. I'd like to get my hands on a Super Tak 105 2.8 too at some point.
@Spotmatic: I wouldn't know the difference The serial number on my lens says 1753452.
Here's a photo of my SuperTak 135 3.5 taken with my P&S (I'm charging the DSLR's battery):
_________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
cmontoya wrote: |
@Spotmatic: I wouldn't know the difference The serial number on my lens says 1753452.
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I think you have the later version with 4 elements (given the 'modern' appearance), but maybe you can take a look at the back of the A/M switch of the lens? Is there a number engraved on the switch and if so, which one? _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:26 am Post subject: |
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cmontoya wrote:
@Spotmatic: I don't see any number.
Here's the e-bay page I bought the lens from:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260491543244&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT _________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: Some more practice shots |
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cmontoya wrote:
Practising selective focus
Capturing natural bokeh
Perfect exposure me thinks
_________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
Great captures, your like to have sunny weather, it is rainy heavily in my place and I can not go out to test my new 28mm F3.5 _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
135mm : Pentacon auto 6-blade F2.8 // Super Tak F3.5 // CZJ Sonnar F3.5 Zebra |
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TBaker
Joined: 02 Dec 2009 Posts: 344 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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TBaker wrote:
Yes exposure is spot on and sharp.
That's some nasty electrical. No grounds? |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
you have a nice eye. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
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Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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cmontoya wrote:
@Tharos: You can shoot from inside the house. I bet the rain would saturate the scenes
@TBaker: Thank you. I read that the SuperTaks indeed overexpose so I was experimenting by compensating by -1 and -2 stops. I couldn't sleep until I found out for sure so I researched and found that SuperTaks indeed have this problem. The explanation and solution can be found here
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/34265-takumar-50mm-f1-4-low-contrast-narrow-f-stops.html.
It's nasty. This is the Philippines. Safety isn't really a priority. In some countries when there are gunfights, people run for cover. In our country, people run for the best seats (until they get hit by stray bullets).
@rbelyell: I'm trying to be an artistic photographer 75% first, 25% gearhead second. _________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
I usually dislike the bokeh of the Super Takumar 135mm f/3.5 more than that of any other common lens, but these aren't half bad! |
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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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cmontoya wrote:
(OT) Hi guys. I just found out why my 135mm f/3.5 is 'hazy.' It's not the lens, it's the Pro Tama UV filter. I was cleaning my SuperTaks a few days ago and decided to remove the UV filters and when I held the Pro Tama against the light, voila, the lens was coated with 'fog' (I don't know what it's really called). I tried the Lens Pen on it and the fog went away but today when I was readying the 135 for another round of test in the field, the fog was back. I took a shot and hazy photos. I replaced the filter with the Hoya one that is attached to the 28mm and no more haze.
I discounted moisture as both of my SuperTaks are stored in the same bag.
Dang! I'm ordering another Hoya 49mm UV filter for the 135.
Lesson learned: Don't buy cheap filters. _________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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TBaker
Joined: 02 Dec 2009 Posts: 344 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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TBaker wrote:
You have a hood...save your money and don't use any filtres. Only filtres I use on my glass is POL, ND110 or the IR filtre. |
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cmontoya
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 216 Location: Cebu City, Philippines
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:16 am Post subject: |
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cmontoya wrote:
@TBaker: Thank you for the advice but sadly I already ordered one from e-bay. He he.
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Some more field test snapshots from the 135mm f/3.5 (this time with the Hoya UV filter) and as you can see no more haze
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_________________ Digital: Canon 450D
AF: Tamron 28-75 2.8
Film: Canonet 28, Canonet QL-17, Nikon FM2
MF: Nikkor 50mm 1.4 |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11055 Location: California
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visualopsins wrote:
Like this lens my 5 element version diaphram switch has no number, positions are labelled "A" and "M", serial number begins 1; my 4 element version switch has 43541, positions "Auto" and "Man", and serial begins 2. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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