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hexi
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 Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: Pentacon lens 4/200mm |
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hexi wrote:
Good evening 
I plan to buy it just cause its superb construction ( kidding ) , it is of course a M42. Any user infos ? would be appreciated.
By the way i must be a fool. The 200mm lenses are sometimes very heavy, at least for me. I had 2 of them already : Zuiko 200 f5 and a superb Rokkor 200m f3.5 which was a tank built, baseball like lens. So one side its a bit heavy, but the Rokkor produced images of great quality ... bah one day i'll learn .
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| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Is it the Automatic / Electric version or the pre-set version?
The pre-set should have better bokeh (perhaps) but the auto / electric version will likely have less CA and be slightly more contrasty due to the multi coating. I still haven't managed to find an auto or electric version with working blades though 
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Attila wrote:
All version are light weight pretty good one.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/meyer/meyer200zebra/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/pentacon/pentacon_200mm/
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| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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indianadinos wrote:
I have the preset version, heavier than my Pentax-K 200/4, but lighter than my SMC Takumar 200/4 ...
Nice bokeh and quite sharp, even wide open, but avoid strong lights toward the lens (unless you are looking for artistic reflections) ...
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aoleg wrote:
I had the Auto version once. While a sharp lens with no real drawbacks, it didn't offer anything above what S-M-C Takumar 200/4 has to offer, so I sold it. On the other hand, this Pentacon is better (sharper and, in MC Auto version, with better contrast and flare resistance) than Vivitar 200/3.5, which itself is not a bad lens.
I found Pentacon's rendering similar to Takumar 200/4, with Tak having advantage in slightly better colors and flare resistance. The Tak fetches more on eBay though.
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hexi
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
| Shrek wrote: |
| Is it the Automatic / Electric version or the pre-set version |
I think its the auto version, all black and i believe on the last series.
thanx to all for the infos
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I have the preset. I used it yesterday as I couldn't bring my favoured 200mm Chinon with me. It's pretty good. Bokeh as pleasing due to the aperture blades and has a slightly cold white balance. Mine's in prestine condition and even has a box.
If you want a good, fairly cheap 200mm, I'd go for a Chinon 200mm F3.5 as it's quite a bit better than the Pentacon in just about every way.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
| aoleg wrote: |
| I found Pentacon's rendering similar to Takumar 200/4, with Tak having advantage in slightly better colors and flare resistance. The Tak fetches more on eBay though. |
I found the Tak flared more and I was never impressed by it's sharpness.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: I got this lens since a long time |
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mybike wrote:
Hello,
i have this lens since when I used my analogic fujica.
Now I am starting to use it on a dslr.
I am quite happy about the feautures of this lens,. I spot the difference using the plastic kit lens of the DSLR that a friend of mine lent me for testing my lenses on digital
If you want i can post some pics with a MF pentacon 200 and a CANON 350
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aoleg
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aoleg wrote:
| martinsmith99 wrote: |
| aoleg wrote: |
| I found Pentacon's rendering similar to Takumar 200/4, with Tak having advantage in slightly better colors and flare resistance. The Tak fetches more on eBay though. |
I found the Tak flared more and I was never impressed by it's sharpness. |
Is your copy of Takumar a S-M-C one? Mine is, and it handles flare quite well, although I agree that it's not eltra-sharp (but very, very adequate).
S-M-C Takumar 200/4. Handling of flare is examplary:
Sharpness is quite allright:
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: pics with pentacon 200 |
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mybike wrote:
i post some pics, with this good lens., let me know what you think
this lens has a quite good boke and is a sharp lens
cheers paolo
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
A couple of examples from my pre-set zebra version.
In my view the lens has very pleasing color rendition, contrast on the lower side and OK sharpness.
CA can sometimes be seen on high contrast objects.
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mybike wrote:
Aoleg,. your lens is takumar 200
I dont know the difference betweend this and your, but it's not bad, as far as i see
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Aoleg > Yes mine was the S-M-C. It was on a par with my Pentacon preset 4/200. When I bought the Chinon it made the other 2 look soft in comparison so one had to go.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: pics with pentacon 200 |
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hexi wrote:
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this lens has a quite good boke and is a sharp lens
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great stuff, this is the version i plan to buy. rendition seems more thatn ok, i like this. thanx
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martinsmith99 wrote:
The Pentacon is pretty good. Here's a couple of shots from last week that I took when my wife hijacked my Canon 70-200 F4 L.
I've no idea how to do 100% crops, but they are pretty sharp I can tell you.
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mybike wrote:
Nice shots, martin! I seethe water with all the tones and shades very clear!
I took other pics in this summer day with the dslr and the pentacon , if you want to have look here following:
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
I am more than convinced ( and otherwise i trust in Pentacon lenses as well ) by all the pix posted. Got the lens for 37€ finally, with case. Just hope it won't be too heavy :s
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Ballu wrote:
Its a nice lens. I have a preset version with interchangable mount. I bought the lens as I has Pentacon 135mm lens with Exa mount. Got this with M42 mount, so that can use both.
Its heavy. Sharp with lot of CA/Optical aberration wide open. And thats little problem, as its a slow lens.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:15 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
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I've no idea how to do 100% crops... |
I am hesitant because I am no authority and hope I don't tell nonsense, but since nobody else took the bait...
in PS go to: view > actual pixels and then do a crop from there ( and please anybody do correct me if so necessary or expound )
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
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| martinsmith99 wrote: |
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I've no idea how to do 100% crops... |
I am hesitant because I am no authority and hope I don't tell nonsense, but since nobody else took the bait...
in PS go to: view > actual pixels and then do a crop from there ( and please anybody do correct me if so necessary or expound ) |
That's perfectly correct. Also, in Paint Shop Pro, expand the image to 1:1 ratio and crop from there. Other image manipulation programs have similar.
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